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American Egyptian Coptic Christians to organize a peaceful demonstration, on July 16, 2008, in front of the White House, to protest violent attacks against Coptic Christians in Egypt
Written by Coptic organizations in the United States
Coptic Organizations in America along with activists from Egypt, the Middle East, Europe and the United states, will conduct a peaceful demonstration in front of the White House on Wednesday July 16, 2008, from 12:00 noon to 4:00 pm.
The purpose is to convey, to world's opinion and international human rights organizations, the systematic and continuous persecution, murders, discrimination, marginalization, and the organized (by the security police, and muslim organizations) kidnapping of Coptic girls inflicted on Coptic Christians of Egypt by the Egyptian government and Muslim “extremists,” which in many cases represent the whole "moderate" population of a village or a town, following recent killings and attacks on Christian homes, businesses and institutions.
We will expose the persecution of the Coptic Christians of Egypt, including unprovoked attacks against Coptic families, churches, monasteries, homes and businesses. During the past few weeks, news agencies worldwide reported attacks against the Copts in towns and cities of Zaitoun, Alexandria, Abu Fana, Dafash, El Menia, Luxor, and Fayoum. The situation became so bad to the extent that attempts were made to force Coptic monks to denounce their faith under torture and death threats.
Dear Brothers and Sisters
Come join us in condemning the oppression and ethnic cleansing inflicted on the Coptic Christians of Egypt.
Many of our brethren pay the ultimate price which is their lives for their faith and freedom of religion, and we only ask you to sacrifice just a few hours of your time to declare your support of your oppressed brothers and sisters in Egypt by deed not just talk.
In addition to violent attacks by Muslim extremists, the Copts of Egypt suffer from discriminatory laws and practices imposed on them by the Egyptian government. These practices include restrictions on church building, under representation in Parliament (less than 1%), and discrimination in jobs and promotions. Most high ranking jobs in Egypt are out of reach for Copts. [These are issues that are too numerous to mention here and will be the subject of a book that will be published in America soon by Coptic organizations and American researchers.]
We call on the American and International Media, human rights
organizations, churches and Christian organizations and all freedom loving people to join our demonstration to send a message to the Egyptian government to stop persecuting the Copts and take responsibility in providing adequate protection for them.
Use the gift that God gave you and be an honest witness to what happens in Egypt. God, who gave you freedom in America, gave you also the responsibility to defend the right of your people in Egypt for freedom and security.
We invite our Ethiopian and Sudanese brothers and sisters in the Washington DC area to take part in this demonstration to defend the persecuted Coptic Church. [Ethiopian and Sudanese Christians belong to the same Coptic Church.]
Those who live in the Washington DC area may go directly to the location of the demonstration. Those who don’t have transportation may gather at St. Mark Coptic Church in Virginia at 10:00A.M., Wednesday July 16, 2008. Those who are coming from other States may go directly to the location of the demonstration. Those who are coming from New Jersey and New York may use buses provided by the American Coptic Association in New Jersey.
We will be joined in Washington D.C. by several Congressmen and Senators, including Congressman Frank Wolf who introduced House Resolution 1303, condemning the Egyptian government’s human rights violations, and several TV stations will cover the demonstration.
For more information, please contact:
Mounir Bishay, Los Angeles (310) 641- 3387
Jacob Keryakos, New Jersey (732) 414- 9451
Fayez Khella, New Jersey (201) 424- 0278
Dr. Dawoud, New Jersey (201) 424- 1001
Atef Jacoub, Washington DC (703) 863- 7069
Selim Naguib, Montreal (514) 485- 4550
Atef Macar, Chicago (630) 878- 1333
The use of the buses from the different locations is offered for ALL who want to join our demonstration, Copts and non Copts. Please feel welcomed to call the Coptic organization representative nearest you for the locations and schedules of the buses.
A reminder for those who are not aware of history: Copts are the native people of Egypt, the descendants of the Ancient Egyptians. Egypt was majority Copts, beside a large and thriving Jewish community. The Jews were driven out of Egypt by the mid fifties after confiscating all their properties, and since then the successive muslim governments of Egypt are working according to plan, "First the Saturday people, then the Sunday people."
It's Egyptian muslims that spread the ideology of jihad through Al Azhar missionary sheiks worldwide and the Muslim Brotherhood. The Saudis were the financiers. It's no coincidence that Mohammad Atta, the leader of the 911 (glorious ghazwa) massacre, Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, serving life in America for the 1993 WTC bombing, Sheik El Qaradawi, and Zawahri (the brain), just to name few illustrious ones are all Egyptians.
We are certain that the (near) future will prove to everyone that the Copts fight against islamic terror in their own country is not separate from the war on terror in America. For islam, we’re in the same boat.
Coptic Christians in Egypt Under Assault
7/11/2008
Catholic Online (www.catholic.org)
"The Copts of Egypt are the largest Christian minority in the Middle East. They number about 18% of Egypt's population of 80 million."
WASHINGTON, DC (Catholic Online) - Christian Newswire reports that there will be a rally to show solidarity with Coptic Christians in Egypt who face increasing persecution:
"Rally in Support of Coptic Christians in Egypt
American Egyptian Coptic Christians to organize a peaceful demonstration, on July 16, 2008, in front of the White House, to protest violent attacks against Coptic Christians in Egypt."
Contact: Mounir Bishay, 310-641-3387
"Coptic Organizations in America along with activists from Egypt, the Middle East, Europe and the United states, will conduct a peaceful demonstration in front of the White House on Wednesday July 16, 2008, from 12:00 noon to 4:00 pm."
"The purpose is to convey, to world's opinion and international human rights organizations, recent incidents of persecution, discrimination and marginalization inflicted on Coptic Christians of Egypt by the Egyptian government and Muslim extremists."
"The Copts of Egypt are the largest Christian minority in the Middle East. They number about 18% of Egypt's population of 80 million. Not a month passes by without their churches, homes and businesses being attacked."
"According to a study made by Ibn Khaldoun Research Center in Cairo (headed by Dr. Saad El Deen Ibrahim, a muslim) over 240 major attacks against the Copts took place during the period from 1972- 2003." [ Emphasis between coma added.]
"Magdy Khalil, a writer and researcher, estimates that as a result of these attacks more than 4000 Copts were killed or injured." [And not one muslim criminal was convicted for any crime committed against Christian Copts based on the Sharia law, "No muslim should be punished for killing a kafir."]
"This, in addition to damages to Coptic properties that could exceed hundreds of millions of dollars, during the last three decades alone. Hundreds of Coptic girls are abducted and forced to embrace Islam while security forces act as accomplices and helpers of the criminals."
"During the last few weeks, the extremists attacked a jewelry store owned by Copts killing four Copts. The extremists also attacked Abu Fana Coptic monastery injuring many monks and kidnapping three."
"The abducted monks were tortured, while they were ordered to announce abandoning their Christian faith and embracing Islam. In Fayoum , Muslim extremists attacked homes and businesses owned by Coptic Christians."
"A Coptic Christian man was killed by Muslims in the town of Dafash, governorate of Minia, in the southern part of Egypt, and a 17 year old youngman was slaughtered in Luxor beside the injured, and destructions of homes and businesses." [And the ongoing Mohammad's famous legacy of kidnapping, raping, and forced islamization of Coptic girls. Known since the time of the pedophile prophet as, "Spreading islam through the vagina."]
Future demonstrations, July 23rd in New York and Rome, Italy
The association Voice of the Copts would like to inform you that on July 23, 2008 at 12:00 noon next to the United Nation building in New York City, intend to have a peaceful protest against the criminal acts occurred in Egypt against Copts (Christians of Egypt) and other religious minorities.
After gathering and protesting we plan to move towards the Egyptian council to bring our protest to the Egyptian authority.
The same action will take place at the same time in Rome Italy, next to the Egyptian Embassy in Rome.
Herewith, Voice of the Copts is inviting all of whom believe and fight for human rights to join us in our peaceful but firm request that we want to bring to the whole world in order to protect innocent people oppressed and discriminated only because their faith is different than the majority. We also protest against the carelessness of the Egyptian government to protect archeologist and ancient Coptic Monasteries and Churches.
Pictures of the demonstration in Athens, Greece (to view full set of pictures here)
Pictures of the demonstration in Vienna, Austria (to view full set of pictures here)
Demonstration in Sidney, Australia (to view full set of pictures here)
To view Ottawa, Canada demonstration here
To view the Netherlands demonstration here
To view Paris, France demonstration here
Words are not enough to express our deepest thanks to all non Copts in every European country, Ottawa Canada, California US, and Sidney Australia who felt that our fight against the jihadists’ terror is one and the same, and joined us in a beautiful show of solidarity. We also thank all members of parliaments and government officials who addressed the crowds on behalf of their governments, and raised the fully documented persecution of the Copts of Egypt with their respective governments and parliaments with our demands. We can’t forget to express our thanks to all the media and particularly the TV stations that covered every demonstration.
The last two weeks we were practically on the road with different Coptic organizations in the US and Canada, and Never before have I witnessed such enormous efforts, unity, activism, and synchronization among Copts in the US, Canada, Europe, and Australia with a sincere desire to expose to the Western world, which is also our world, what many still ignore to their own detriment.
We lived with islam for 1400 years, and the history and legacy of 1400 years can’t lie. I can put it in a more familiar formula: what you see (the islam that Copts are exposing to the world) is what you’ll get.
Last but not least, the whole Egyptian media, the hyenas of the regime, are mounting the most vicious attack. Accusing the Copts of the Diaspora, particularly the US Copts, with the whole list of the too familiar accusations, used and recycled for the last fifty years, starting by being the biggest renegades for not realizing that the Copts of Egypt are the luckiest minority in the world since the light of islam shined with its love and tolerance on Egypt. And we’re only denying this to mount a vicious defamation campaign against the good reputation of Egypt and ruin the brotherly 1400 years of peaceful cohabitation between Copts and muslims. Ending with the all time classic of being used in a Zionist-American imperialistic antagonistic capitalistic conspirationistic anti-islamistic schemetistic operation to destabilize Egypt according to a hidden Zionist-American plan.
Their aim, as usual, is to blackmail the Coptic Church authorities into denying any mistreatment or injustice, and denounce any external interference. But that too is a very old game that all Western governments are fully aware of. The problem with perpetual liars and deceivers is they think that the rest of the world is like them, with water melons on top of their shoulders instead of brains.
These facts have been posted almost a year ago, July 5, 2007, by Patrick Poole. Except for the increasing number of attacks on the Christian minorities in Muslims dominated countries, more loss of lives and properties, what is stated is more relevant now than ever before. It complements what we’ve been reporting on lately, and it deserves to be widely spread. It is definitely a must read, (thanks to Louis).
Islam’s Global War against Christianity
By Patrick Poole
From Nigeria to Indonesia, Christians are under siege in virtually every single country in the Muslim world, the victims of countless acts of discrimination, depredation, brutality, and murder that are so widespread and systematic that it can rightfully be called the new Holocaust. This time, however, the perpetrators of this Holocaust aren’t wearing swastikas, but kufi skull caps and hijabs.
Some of the oldest Christian communities in the world are subject to relentless attack and teeter on the brink of extinction at the hands of the “Religion of Peace”: Palestinian Christians in Gaza and the West Bank; Assyrian, Syriac and Chaldean Christians in Iraq; Coptic Christians in Egypt; Evangelical and Orthodox Christians in Eastern Ethiopia and Eritrea; Armenian Orthodox Christians in Turkey; and Maronite Christians in Lebanon.
Several of these communities date back to the beginning decades of Christianity and all have weathered wave after wave of Islamic persecution for centuries and more, but in the very near future some will simply cease to exist. In our lifetime, the only trace of their past existence will be in footnotes in history books (and probably only Western history books at that).
Meanwhile, we in the West hear much from radical Islam’s apologists how the US is engaged in a war against Islam citing of our military actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are lectured on the inviolability of the Muslim ummah and justifications of defensive jihad.
But an extensive search this past weekend of the websites of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America, the Islamic Circle of North America, the Muslim American Society, the Muslim Student Association, the Fiqh Council of North America, and the Muslim Public Affairs Committee - the most visible institutional representatives of Islam in America - found not a single mention or reference of the religious persecution of Christians by their Islamic co-religionists, thereby making them tacit co-conspirators in the Final Solution to the Christian problem in the Muslim world.
The global war on Christianity by Islam is so massive in size and scope that it is virtually impossible to describe without trivializing it. Inspired by Muslim Brotherhood ideology and fueled by billions of Wahhabi petrodollars, the religious cleansing of Christians from the Muslim world is continuing at a break-neck pace, as the following recent examples demonstrate.
Iraq: In the current issue of the American Spectator, Doug Bandow observes that centuries of dhimmitude have left Christians in the war-torn country without any means of self-defense. Washington policymakers have refused to lend assistance for fear of showing partiality, despite the murder of hundreds of Iraqi Christians, the kidnapping and torture of Christian clerics, the repeated bombings of Christian churches, the torching of Christian businesses, and the flight of close to half of the entire Iraqi Christian population since April 2003. Those who remain have been subject to the imposition of shari’a by the Shi’ite Mahdi Army and Sunni militias (al-Qaeda doesn’t bother with such niceties, preferring to murder them immediately instead), including the recent published threat in Mosul of killing one member of every Christian family in that city for Christian women not wearing the hijab and continuing to attend school. (Be sure to remember that the next time an Islamist apologist claims that the hijab is a symbol of women’s liberation.)
Egypt: Journalist Magdi Khalil chronicles in a new report (”Another Black Friday for the Coptic Christians of Egypt”) the campaign of violence directed against Christian Copts almost weekly immediately following Friday afternoon Muslim prayers. Inspired by Islamist imams preaching religious hatred in mosques all over the country and protected by government officials willing to look the other way, rampaging mobs of Muslims set upon Christians churches, businesses and individuals, from Alexandria to cities all the way up the Nile. Coptic holy days are also favorite times for Muslim violence, which the Egyptian media likes to describe as “sectarian strife” - as if it were actually a two-sided affair.
Gaza: Ethel Fenig recently noted here at American Thinker (”More Gaza Multiculturalism”) the systematic destruction of churches and desecration of Christian religious objects by Jihadia Salafiya following the HAMAS takeover of the Gaza Strip from their Fatah rivals and the imposition of Islamic rule. The head of Jihadia Salafiya told reporter Aaron Klein that any suspected Christian missionary activity in the area will be “dealt with harshly”. (Ynet News)
Saudi Arabia: According to the Arab News, a Sri Lankan Christian man barely escaped with his life in late May when he was found working in the city of Mecca, Islam’s holiest city, which is officially barred to non-Muslims. In December, an Indian man had been sentenced to death for accidentally entering the city, but was spared after the Indian embassy made an urgent appeal to the Saudi Supreme Court.
Pakistan: In Islamabad, Younis Masih was sentenced last month to death under the country’s frequently invoked blasphemy laws, which were also used against six Christian women suspended from a nursing school after they were accused of desecrating a Quran. And as protests against Salman Rushdie’s knighthood raged, a Muslim mob armed with guns, axes and sticks attacked Christians worshipping in a Salvation Army church in Bismillahlpur Kanthan. (Associated Press; United Press International; Mission News Network)
Bangladesh: Almost a dozen Christian converts in the Nilphamari district were beaten last week by Muslim villagers wielding bricks and clubs, and threatened with death if they did not leave town immediately. Local hospitals subsequently refused them treatment. Christians in the area have also been prevented from using the only potable water well in the area after a pronouncement by religious authorities at the mosque in Durbachari. This came after 42 former Muslims were baptized as Christians in the local river on June 12. (Compass News Direct)
Malaysia: Government authorities demolished a church building on June 4th in Orang Asli settlement in Gua Musang in Ulu Kelantan, despite prior government approval of the project. The church was built on donated property after the entire village had converted to Christianity just a few months ago. Also in late May, the Malaysian high court ruled that Muslims who convert to Christianity must appeal to the religious shari’a courts to officially be deregistered as Muslims and reregistered as a Christians. (Journal Chretien; Associated Press)
Indonesia: Agence France Presse reported last month on an attack by the Islamic Anti-Apostate Movement, who stormed a church service in a Protestant church in the West Java town of Soreang. The AFP report notes that more than 30 churches have been forced to close in West Java and dozens more throughout the country in recent years due to Muslim violence, churches which were among the few spared during the outbreak of hostilities during 1997-1998, where hundreds of Christian churches were burned to the ground and never rebuilt.
Turkey: The Christian community is still reeling from the torture and ritual slaughter of three Protestants at a Christian publishing house in Malatya in April by an armed Islamist gang, which was preceded by the murder last year of Catholic priest Andrea Santoro in Trabzon and the assassination of Armenian journalist Hrant Dink in Istanbul in January. An additional six men allegedly associated with the same Muslim gang were arrested on May 30th for plotting an attack on a Christian pastor in Diyarbakir. (Lebanon Daily Star; ADKNI)
Cyprus: The Cyprus Mail reports that during a meeting last month in Rome the Archbishop of the Cypriot Greek Orthodox Church pleaded with the Vatican Secretary of State for the Pope’s assistance to pressure Turkish authorities in restoring and repairing Christian sites and churches in areas occupied since the invasion of the island nation by Turkey in July 1974 and the ethnic cleansing of 160,000 Greek Christian Cypriots.
Lebanon: More than 60,000 Christians have left the country since last summer’s war between Hezbollah and Israel, fearing the rise of both Sunni and Shi’ite extremism and terrorist activity. The Sunday Telegraph recently revealed the results of a poll finding that at least half of Lebanon’s Maronite community were considering leaving the country. More than 100,000 have already submitted visa applications at foreign embassies.
Algeria: In what is considered one of the more “moderate” Muslim regimes, Al-Quds Al-Arabi announced that the Algerian government has just issued regulations requiring advance permission for non-Muslim public events, following a 2006 law aimed at limiting Christian evangelism in the Kabylia region and the Sahara. (MEMRI )
Morocco: In the country that The Economist magazine in 2005 anointed “the best Arab democracy”, all Moroccans are considered Muslims at birth and face three years in prison if they attempt to convert. They are also prohibited from entering any of the few churches permitted to operate for the foreign inhabitants of the country. Moroccan Christians must operate covertly for fear of imprisonment by the government and attacks by Islamists. They cannot bury their dead in Christian cemeteries, and they must be married by Islamic authorities or face charges of adultery. Late last year, a 64 year-old German tourist, Sadek Noshi Yassa, was sentenced to six months in jail and fined for missionary activity. (Journal Chretien)
Nigeria: Police in Gombe arrested sixteen suspects after a Muslim mob stoned, stripped, beat, and finally stabbed to death a Christian teacher, Christiana Oluwatoyin Oluwasesin, after she caught a student cheating on an exam in March. Her body was then burned beyond recognition by the mob who falsely accused her of desecrating a Quran. The suspects were released last month without any charges being filed, prompting Christian leaders to accuse government authorities of a cover-up and raising concerns about additional attacks. (Christian Today)
Eritrea: Just a few weeks ago, the Islamic government installed a new Orthodox Patriarch after they removed the previous Patriarch and placed him under house arrest for no stated reason. Compass News Direct reported in February the death of Magos Solomon Semere, a Christian who had been imprisoned in a military jail for four and a half years for illegal Christian worship, the third Christian to die in government custody since October. Authorities have also cracked down on unapproved churches, jailing at least two thousand Protestants and members of the Medhane Alem Orthodox renewal movement since the beginning of the year and publicly burning confiscated Bibles. (Christian Post; Compass News Direct ; Journal Chretien)
It is not an exaggeration to say that I could extend this brief list ad infinitum with additional Islamic countries and news items from just the past few weeks’ worth of incidents of violence, discrimination, intimidation and murder targeting Christians in the Muslim world. In many instances, the government and religious authorities in these Muslim countries work hand-in-hand in their campaign of religious persecution.
A scene in the Academy Award-winning movie Schindler’s List gives us some insight into what is happening all across the Muslim world with respect to Christianity. As the SS Commandant Amon Göth and his Nazi Stormtroopers prepare to liquidate the Jewish ghetto in Krakow, Poland, Göth (played in the movie by Ralph Fiennes) gives his men a peptalk:
For six centuries there has been a Jewish Krakow. Think about that. By this evening, those six centuries are a rumor. They never happened. Today is history.
This scene is being repeated in the Friday sermons in mosques and on Islamic satellite TV all over the world, only this time it is the Christians in addition to the Jews who are targets. Great efforts are being made to make the two-thousand year history of Christianity in North Africa, the Middle East and Southeast Asia a blasphemous rumor. Soon students in Turkey will be taught that the Hagia Sophia, the greatest architectural structure in the Muslim world, wasn’t built by the Christian Emperor Justinian in the Sixth Century, but by the Sultan Mehmed II a thousand years later after the Ottomans seized the Byzantine capital. That Christians lived at all in the Muslim world, let alone that much of the territory occupied by Muslims used to be Christian lands before the Islamic Wars of Conquest, will be nothing but a rumor by the end of this century punishable according to the precepts of shari’a.
President Bush announced last week that he will be sending a special envoy to the 57-member Organization of Islamic Countries. Hopefully, the systematic persecution of Christians and other religious minorities will be the first and primary item in the new envoy’s portfolio, with the 2007 annual report of the US Commission on International Religious Freedom and the State Department’s Annual Report on International Religious Freedom, which name virtually every single country in the OIC for its human rights abuses and religious cleansing, as evidence for our country’s concern.
The fact remains that not a single Christian or Jew lives in peace in the Muslim world, and if it is truly our nation’s foreign policy to spread democracy around the world, this issue is the perfect topic for us to press. Back at home, raising Islam’s global war on Christianity should be the immediate response to the seemingly endless media grievance machine of radical Islam’s Western apologists. Until they begin to address the new Holocaust perpetrated in the name of Islam, their complaints and denials are nothing but bald hypocrisy.
Patrick Poole is an occasional contributor to American Thinker. He maintains a blog, Existential Space.
We encourage all Anti-Jihadist sites, and individuals to promote this resolution. Its success will be another step forward in our war on Islamic terror.
The U.S. Congress and the Leadership council for Human Rights condemn Mubarak, the godfather of Egypt that parades himself as the champion, for the Palestinian rights and war on terror while denying 15 million Copts of their basic rights, and expose him for what he really is. [A true muslim. This is the best qualification we should use, that should say it all, to address these creatures.]
The beauty is, they will understand what we mean by that when you slap them with it in the face, don’t forget the smile, but they won’t be able to accuse you of anything.
Actually I’m looking forward for the day when muslims and Islamic organizations like CAIR and company start suing us for calling them, true muslim followers of mohammad, knowing how much they’re proud of that infamous name that many of them carry. To give them a double dose of, “Feel the pride.”
When it gets to their bones, and we reach the point of being accused as islamophobic and spreading hate speech, for calling them true muslim followers of mohammad, that will be the day when they’ll bring down the house of islam with their own hands on their heads. And that will be the day when you’ll see scores of muslims wearing crosses and stars of David and calling themselves Mike and Emily instead of mohammad and eisha.
I particularly advise the radio shows, and television talk show hosts exposing islam to use this strategy. Can you imagine a headline like, “CAIR officials sue Michael Savage for calling them, true muslim followers of mohammad?”
We debate muslims every day, and we know the effect. Many muslims became ex-muslims when it made them regain conscience and forced them to connect with the deeds of mohammad and islam.
It is also a double formula. For muslims claiming to be against terrorism, against beating women, against killing kafirs and apostate, calling for peaceful co-existence between all people, equal rights for women and minorities, against the “marriage” of baby girls, against anti Semitism and defaming other religions, etc, etc, we congratulate them for not being true muslims and having a much higher morality than mohammad. But we ask them from where they got all this beautiful teaching, since it’s not in the Koran, and contradicts mohammad’s deeds, unless they can give us the references to correct our lack of knowledge.
Besides, telling a muslim that he’s a true muslim follower of mohammad is perfectly, “Politically correct.” But it will give political correctness a new dimension that will serve our purpose.
LCHR Applauds Egypt Human Rights Resolution, Urges Support
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Wednesday, 27 June 2008 |
Washington, D.C. – The Leadership Council for Human Rights strongly supports H. Res. 1303, calling on the Egyptian Government to respect human rights and freedoms of religion and expression in Egypt. LCHR expresses its appreciation to Congressional Human Rights Caucus Co-Chair Frank Wolf for introducing this important resolution, which details Egypt's human rights abuses against religious minorities, journalists and bloggers, democracy proponents, and civil society development organizations. The resolution also urges the President and the Secretary of State to prioritize human rights and religious freedom in meetings with Egyptian officials.
LCHR applauds Rep. Wolf for his consistent leadership on the human rights situation in Egypt. Tragically, many Egyptians have been unable to claim and enjoy their rights because of widespread repression. Religious minorities like the Copts and Baha'is are subject to discrimination at every level, and political opponents of the ruling regime, including Ayman Nour, have been targeted and jailed. Egypt's President, Hosni Mubarak, has promised democratic reforms time and again. These promises have gone unfulfilled.
Please call and encourage your Member of Congress to co-sponsor H. Res. 1303. Your support is vital for the success of the resolution, which if passed will send President Mubarak a clear message that Egypt must respect human rights. Current co-sponsors include Reps. Burton, Smith, Franks, Fossella, Kirk, McCotter, Schakowsky, Souder, Davis, Pitts, Waters, Pence, McGovern, and Goode.
Proposed letter
Date:
The Honorable XXXXX
(Address)
RE: Request to Co-Sponsor Resolution H.Res.1303
Dear Congressman XXXXX,
I/ We, as members of your district, are writing this letter to kindly ask for your assistance in supporting the aforementioned resolution that admonishes the Egyptian government’s egregious violations of human rights and religious freedoms. This resolution also requests that Egypt ends all forms of harassment and fully implement protection of religious minorities.
We, as Coptic Christians and Americans of Egyptian descent, are extremely concerned with the plight of all Christians in the Middle East, and especially with our Coptic brothers and sisters in Egypt. The Copts of Egypt are the last sizable Christian population left in the Middle East, and are also Egypt’s largest religious minority group.
Egypt’s violations of human rights and religious freedoms have been on the Congressional agenda for some time. However, violations of human rights in Egypt have continued to worsen significantly; and this severe decline and lack of improvement by the Egyptian government prompted:
1. Two European Union Parliament resolutions (one on Nov. 15th, 2007 and one on Jan. 18th, 2008) that condemn Egypt’s violations of human rights and religious freedoms
2. This new proposed US resolution, which will prove to the world that the Americans will always defend democracy and human rights throughout the world; showing our support for helping those who are helpless.
We are writing to respectfully request that you join in co-sponsoring this resolution. Your knowledge and expertise would be a great addition to this resolution.
The lead sponsor of this resolution is Congressman Frank Wolf of Virginia. On Friday April 18th, Mr. Wolf’s office sent out a “Dear Colleague” email asking for support of this resolution and it includes the contact information for Elizabeth Hoffman in Congressman Wolf’s office.
We sincerely thank you for your time and attention to this important matter.
Sincerely,
No one on earth knows Islam and muslims better than the Copts. Will the West get the message and wake up?
All the reports we posted about muslims' terror attacks, and the persecution of Arab governments of the native Christian minorities, were not aimed to plead with Western governments for the sake of the Copts or the Christians of the Middle East, these governments can't even control the muslim populations in their own countries, but to expose to the Western public the amount of hate, rage, and viciousness ordinary muslim "moderates," are capable of, which is limitless, for the cause of allah. All this hate and viciousness exist already in the West with well organized, well financed cells, more motivated, more creative, more indoctrinated, more recruiting and in much more better position than prior to 911. They even hold their own motivational gatherings, seminars, and became bolder and more immune than ever before.
Did Western populations became the hostage of islam or collateral damage for the special interests and the Arab lobby?
We made sure at all times that every US administration, the Congress, and all Western governments were fully informed and documented by all Coptic organizations, human rights organizations, and their Embassies of the quasi official ethnic cleansing going on against all native Middle Eastern Christians. But in their equation, their special interests with the muslim world and particularly the oil lobby, made their defense for universal human rights, and freedom of religion principles, just empty words, even disregarding an all out islamic radicalization, in Egypt and across the muslim world that ultimately feeds islamic terrorism in the West.
In the midst of continuing sectarian tensions between Muslims and Coptic Christians in Egypt [Read: continuing muslims attacks] the Coptic Diaspora has recently called for demonstrations in the U.S. and European cities. [There will be demonstrations also in Canada and Australia.]
Hundreds of Coptic migrants took to the streets in the Netherlands, France and the U.S., raising banners reading "Save Christians in Egypt," "Stop Islamic Terrorism" and "Help! Christians of Egypt are under attack."
The protests follow an eruption of violence between Muslims and Copts [Read: eruption of muslims violent attacks against the peaceful Copts] in several parts of Egypt. Last month a land dispute involving a Coptic monastery left one Muslim man killed [This muslim never set foot in the monastery, and neither his body, nor any autopsy report were ever produced] in the southern province of Menya. Four Copts, including two monks, were injured. The clash [Again, read: the muslim terrorists thugs attack. The monks never clashed with the thug’s attackers] arose after the monastery began building a wall around neighboring farming land, saying it belonged to the church. Days earlier in Cairo, four Copts were shot dead in a jewelry shop by two gunmen who fled without stealing anything. [Egypt is a police state, if the four slaughtered were muslims, the police would've got the perpetrators in less than 24 hours.]
Egypt is predominantly Sunni Muslim; the Coptic minority is believed to constitute almost 10% of a population of 78 million. [Copts in Egypt numbers no less than 18% (14-15 millions), by the Coptic Church estimate. Since the military coup d’état (military putsch), in 1952, all consecutive governments refused to do any census, to marginalize the Copts who are represented by 0.88% in the Egyptian parliament, one government Minister, and 0% in everything else including the media, sport teams, and even in show business.] An estimated 2 million Copts live in the Diaspora.
[Read: 2 million that were forced to leave. Dr. Magdy Yacoub, the most prominent and world renowned heart surgeon in the world, based in London, Britain, and knighted by the Queen, was told bluntly, after graduating, 1st of his class from medical school in Egypt: "don't expect to have a future in the university as a teacher, there is no room for a Christian donkey here, we don't want you here." This is the, "Academic," language the distinguished medical school professors used, if that tells you something.
The same thing could be said about a great number of the most prominent Coptic doctors in the Cleveland Clinic and all over the Western world, just to name two examples. Dr., Professor, Sir Magdi Yacoub, and the prominent Coptic doctors of the Cleveland Clinic paid back those muslim Egyptians that called them Coptic donkeys and threw them out, in a very special way.
For more than 25 years, Dr.Yacoub takes his whole medical team; twice a year to Egypt, giving up his holidays, to give life by providing free heart surgery for poor children that otherwise would have no chance of surviving. That's beside the lectures he gives, to the top Egyptian medical professors. He established and developed heart surgery departments in several medical schools, lobbied international organizations and Western governments to provide all the medical equipments necessary for these departments, provided scholarships and internships to a score of Egyptian doctors to train under his guidance in Britain, all for free.
Anwar Sadat, one of the biggest oppressors of the Copts during his presidency, and responsible for two infamous Copt massacres, declared publicly in the Egyptian parliament, "I am a muslim president of a muslim country, ” when he was shot, immediately his wife called the Egyptian Embassy in London to prepare a private plane to transport Dr. Yacoub in emergency to Cairo. But the God of the Copts was faster in treating him and took him to where mohammad, his buddy, was, before Dr. Yacoub boarded the plane.
Imagine for a second, if president Bush declared solemnly and publicly in a speech televised nationally from the US Congress, "I am a Christian president for a Christian country." What you think would happen? I'll leave that to you.
Dr. Yacoub, "The Coptic donkey," is more famous in Egypt than the president, Hosni Mubarak. He is regarded as a virtual deity, revered, almost God-like.
The same story, from beginning to end, could be told about Dr. Fawzy G. Estafanous, chairman, Division of Anesthesiology and Critical Care Medicine at the Cleveland Clinic. He is another world renowned, "Coptic Donkey," that his contribution to the Cleveland Clinic, for the last forty years, made it what it is today. To be treated by him, all the kings and presidents (the gang) of the Arab world, made the Clinic their medical Mecca, and trust their lives into the hands of Dr. Estafanous rather than their allah and mohammad's recipe of camel urine.
He also paid back those muslim Egyptians that forced him out, by denying him an assistant professor position, in the same manner as Dr.Yacoub. He was instrumental in advancing medical studies all over the Arab world, establishing advanced research center, giving the opportunity to scores of Egyptian and arab doctors to be trained in the Clinic under his, and other Copt doctors, guidance. Treated scores of poor Egyptians with his team, all free.
The contribution of the Copts to Egypt was not limited to the medical field with these two examples from many others.
Dr.Adel Sedra was refused a teacher assistant position at the faculty of engineering, Cairo University to pursue graduate studies for being another, 'Coptic donkey." He too paid back, by opening the door, and providing scholarships to scores of Egyptian muslim engineers in the most prestigious world class engineering faculties of Toronto and Waterloo Universities for which he's the Dean, and helped establish the most advanced technology research centers in many Egyptian universities.
Hundreds of stories could be told, but we'll stop here and ask a question: did all this changed the hearts and minds of Egyptian muslims towards the Copts? to answer this I'll ask you another question that will help you get the answer. Did the opportunities and the open arms hospitality extended by Britain changed the minds and hearts of the suicide "Doctor," bombers? Did it changed the hearts and minds of Abu Hamza el Masri, Abu Qatada, and scores of other muslims when Britain granted them asylum to save them from hanging at the end of a rope in their own countries, and provided them, and their extended families, security, housing, and a comfortable life, all compliment from the British tax payer? did it changed the hearts and minds of Omar Abdel Rahman, the blind sheikh and mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing when America let him in to save him from the hands of the Egyptian government, or El Amoudi, or Sami El Erian that was given generously the opportunity to live the American dream?
There is another measurement we can use to gauge the muslims equation. On who's hearts and minds, Western countries spent and will keep spending (from your pocket) trillions of dollars to try, with no guarantee, to keep you safe? Who's "hearts and minds," are draining all the resources of all the Intelligence agencies of the Western world, that has to monitor those hearts and minds, especially their worship places, round the clock?
Add to this the hundreds of millions of dollars Western governments dump (also from your pocket) on what they call (please don't laugh) the battle of hearts and minds.
A muslim that takes mohammad as a role model, and call him, "The most honorable of all prophets," can't have neither hearts nor minds. This is not an opinion; this is the doctrine of islam. Once a muslim discover the existence of a heart and mind, he is not a muslim any more, and islam would consider him a heretic deserving death for committing the unforgivable sin for not using the heart and mind of mohammad, the most famous mass murderer in history (it's all by the admission of their sources, nothing from me), and they're proud about it. That's the only heart and mind any muslim is allowed to use.
Do you know of any major world religion that has its places of worship, its spiritual leaders, and its "devout" followers under constant surveillance in every Western country, other than the, "Religion of peace?"
When President Bush and other Western officials give us the, "Islam religion of peace," salvo, they should finish the sentence, "Islam is a religion of peace, under constant surveillance." That explains why they never laughed when saying it, it kept me wondering for a while. Thank God for never saying that Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Confuciunism, and ... are religions of peace. They would've been sued, by the followers of these religions, for hate speech and slandering.
It's worth noting that the professors of the medical and engineering faculties that benefitted, and still benefitting greatly from the Copts mentioned above, are known to be the most hateful against Coptic students, and the most fundamentalists. It's not a coincidence that Zawahri is a doctor, and Ben Laden is an engineer.]
Since Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak came to power in 1981, the Coptic Church has sought to project an image of religious co-existence and has not turned to inflammatory discourse on sectarian violence. Yet the response to the recent bloodshed suggests that the church is about to change its style. This month the Coptic Holy Senate issued a relatively strongly worded statement calling on Mubarak to put an end to armed attacks against Copts and ensure their safety.
[We never got any reply from Mubarak, nor he ever uttered a word about the safety concern of 15 million, supposedly, Egyptian citizens. But he doesn't stop parading himself like a super model all over the Middle East and Europe (he hasn't been invited in the US since 2004, Bush can't stand him no more.), as the defender of the Palestinian rights, but he sees no problem for the Copts with no rights. As a side note, him and his family stole about 40 billion in the last 27 years, while his people stand in line and kill themselves for a loaf of bread. These are the thugs they call presidents and kings, defenders of the great religion of truth, so what you expect out of their people.]
The church, which refrains from publicly criticizing the regime, has often distanced itself from the demands made by its followers overseas. This week violence broke out between Copts and Muslims over a rumor of the kidnapping of a Muslim woman and her son in Fayoum province, about 80 miles south of Cairo. One Muslim reportedly died of a heart attack and four Copts were injured in the clashes.
The tension comes at a crucial moment for the Coptic Orthodox Church as the frail Pope Shenouda III is away for medical treatment in the U.S. at the Cleveland Clinic.
— Noha El-Hennawy in Cairo
Photo: Copts demonstrating in the Netherlands. Credit: the Coptic website Coptreal
Next demonstration schedules
We welcome all who want to join us in our common fight against islamic terrorism
Sidney Australia: Saturday, July 5, 2008. Rallying point at the Museum Station at 11 AM.
Ottawa Canada: Saturday, July 5, 2008
Buses will be provided free from Montreal and Toronto, we will return in the afternoon, same day.
Rallying point for Montreal residents: Fairview Shopping Center (Sears)
6815 RTE Transcanadienne (ST- Jean & HWY 40), Pointe Claire, QC, H9R 5J1
The Coptic Association organizers for the Greater Toronto area will announce the rallying point as soon it is available.
For those joining us in Ottawa, we will be rallying front of the Parliament building from 12 to 2 PM, with several MP joining us. Then we will walk to the Egyptian Embassy, we will be front of the Embassy from 3 PM, and we’ll leave for the return trip from the Embassy site at 4 PM.
For more information, call:
Dr. Naguib Selim, head of the Canadian Coptic association, phone # 514 485 4550
Mr. Victor Shahid (For the Toronto and Mississauga area), phone # 416 937 5734
Dr. Nabih Abdel Malek (for the Ottawa area), phone #613 745 5851
We will post the schedules for demonstrations in the US as soon it is available.
We are proud of all the people, who joined the demonstration in Paris, France (Copts and non Copts), and the organizers of the French Coptic Assossiation who made it a great success and provided us with these pictures.
Also proud of the Dutch Coptic association, and all the people who took part in the demonstration in Holland and sent us those pictures
Good job folks, God bless you.
The other face of Mubarak, the supposedly Western ally in the war on terror
This is an admission from a liberal Muslim writer witnessing for the truth, of the terror campaign waged against the Copts of Egypt, the native peaceful people of the country, by none other than the Mubarak regime and his security apparatus.
This is the peace of Islam that native Christians are getting, not only in Egypt, but in all countries that were taken over by muslims. If this wouldn't serve as an alarm for Western populations, then they deserve what muslims have in store for them.
It took less than 25 years for muslims to become the majority in what was the last Christian majority country in the Mideast till the 80's, Lebanon. Their mistake - the Lebanese - was to open their country for other muslim arabs. It cost them more than 100 thousand Christian killed and an exodus of the majority of Christians. If this also is not an eye opener for Western populations, then muslims will open them for you, and force you to see the reality, with the added cost and consequences.
From Memri, thanks to Louis and H.Meawad
Ahmad Al-Aswani, an Egyptian writer, writes extensively on political topics from a critical and reformist perspective. In the following essay, posted June 7, 2008 on the liberal website Aafaq.org,(1) he focuses on the escalating series of physical attacks on members of the Coptic minority in Egypt.
The following are excerpts from the article:
"What Is Happening to Our Coptic Brothers... Is No Longer a Matter of Sporadic Incidents"
"I hope that I have not exaggerated in using the word '[open] season' for what is happening in Egypt to our Coptic brothers, but it is the closest description to what is happening. It is no longer a matter of sporadic incidents, but an uninterrupted series of events.
"Today, you read of the incident in Zeitoun, and tomorrow of the one in Alexandria,(2) and after that of the one in Deir Abu-Fana in Minya,(3) and thus of the diverse incidents, ranging from killing without reason to armed robbery, kidnapping of monks, torching of houses and cars, and waylaying and kidnapping of girls.
"As usual, all then repudiate and condemn, accompanied by official and media denial of any sectarian or terrorist motive. And if that isn't appropriate, the standard excuse [is trotted out]: the criminal was mentally disturbed and did not mean to do what he did.
"This is what has happened in individual incidents... such as the Zeitoun incident a few days ago, or the Alexandria incident two years ago.(4) If we observe closely, we find that these criminals then disappear, and are not brought [to trial in] any court, and no one hears about them afterward."
"Mass Incidents... Follow a Friday Sermon Inciting [Worshipers] to Burn the Homes of the Village's Copts"
"[In] mass incidents, such as marches after Friday prayers – which follow a Friday sermon inciting [worshipers] to burn the homes of the villages Copts, on the pretext that these 'infidels' seek to turn one such home into a church that will pollute the pure village – the [allegations that sparked the incident] are later proven untrue. [This proof, however, comes] after houses, shops, and cars have been burned, [and] after police and government officials arrive to make sure that the burning is complete.
"Then the media, as usual, accuses rumormongers of being behind the regrettable events, saying that they must be agents of Israel or America.
"Of course, the usual Coptic notables deny any suspicion of sectarianism, and affirm national unity, and the sheikh and the priest embrace.
"The matter is concluded with no investigation and no trial for anyone – as if nothing had happened. [All then] wait for the opening of the next season, and for the recurrence of the same events, the same responses, and a promise that parliament's new unified law for houses of worship will solve all problems – in the knowledge that this law does not yet exist."
"Prominent Copts Voluntarily Deny Any Suspicion that Sectarianism Is Fueling Recent Events"
"[Thus] continues the cycle of sad events in Egypt, without end – and one saddening thing is that some prominent Copts voluntarily deny any suspicion that sectarianism is fueling recent events [even] before the truth becomes known. I do not know whether they are aware that their words both increase the suffering and will fail to end this series [of incidents].
"[Instead,] why don't they use their media presence to defend their people, the Copts, and to urge the enactment of laws to prohibit what is happening, and to purge the educational system and media of the explosive mines of sedition, discrimination, and incitement?"
"An Attempt to Terrorize the Copts... and Force Them... To Either Emigrate... or Convert"
"What is happening is an attempt to terrorize Egypt's Copts, and to force them either to emigrate from the homeland once and for all, or to convert to Islam to protect themselves and their families [from harm] and to protect their property from the confiscation mentioned by many Islamic publications.
"It causes me regret, and as an Egyptian it makes my heart bleed, to see this farce endlessly repeated, and to see the same prominent individuals say the same words – and [then to see] the matter forgotten a short time later.
"Frankly, I blame the Coptic leadership in Egypt, headed by His Eminence Pope [Shenouda III] himself, because it has reached the point where lives and property are taken with impunity, and clearly with the authorities' collusion – with no fear of effective response, and with the confidence of all that, as always, the matter will end with beard-kissing and forgetting.
"Although I fully believe that the majority of Egypt's Muslims side with their Coptic brothers and against these incidents, [I must point out that] in light of the incitement, and in light of the seditious clerics on the religious [television] channels, things have changed, with the suspect collusion of the government.
"Perhaps the most recent farce is the June 5 report in [the Egyptian government daily] Al-Ahram... accusing Copts residing abroad of being behind the Zeitoun incident, [and of] forming an armed Coptic organization to instigate civil strife in Egypt.
"Can you imagine such far-out nonsense? I implore you: For God's sake, oh Egypt!"
Endnotes:
(1)
http://www.aafaq.org/masahas
(2) On May 28, 2008, four Coptic Christians – a jeweler and three of his employees – were shot dead by masked men in their shop in the Zeitoun district of Cairo. The next day, two men armed with machine guns robbed a Coptic jeweler in Alexandria of 150,000 Egyptian pounds (see http://www.alarabiya.net
(3) On May 31, 2008, men armed with automatic weapons attacked the Abu-Fana monastery in the Minya governorate, about 210 km south of Cairo. Four monks were wounded, and another three were kidnapped, beaten, threatened with death for refusing to convert to Islam, and later released. Previously, in January 2008, armed men had attacked the monastery and destroyed eight cells inhabited by solitary monks, beating one, and also destroyed Bibles and religious objects (see http://english.aljazeera.net
(4) On April 14, 2006, a man carried out a knife attack on worshippers in three different Coptic churches; one victim died of his wounds (see http://english.aljazeera.net
See also our previous detailed report for the last attack on Coptic monks in their monastery, here.
As If he doesn't know what's happening to the Copts of Egypt, the Coptic Church authority made public an official statement addressed to Mubarak, to stop the killing of the Copts and the attacks on their properties and their holy places, after the last attack on the oldest monastery in the world and the monks living in it, detailed in a previous posting, here.
Never has the Copts endured harsher persecution during the last hundred years, as what they endured, and still enduring under the rule of Mubarak, the one presenting himself as a Western ally in the war on terror, while his security police never ceased, and is the instigator of the worst terror campaign against the Copts during the last 25 years.
This public statement was also meant for the Western world to take notice of Mubarak's government sponsored ethnic cleansing against the Copts, who represent, contrary to the government lie, 20 percent of the population.
Egypt Copts ask president for protection from Muslims
CAIRO (AFP) Monday, 16 June 2008
The Coptic Ecclesiastical Council called on Mubarak to prevent "more armed attacks on monks" and "insults to the cross," said a statement carried by Egypt's press on Sunday.
The move follows a land dispute involving a historic monastery which turned violent on May 31, leading to the death of a Muslim man who was reportedly attacking the monastery.
Four Copts, including two monks, were injured in the attack on the Abu Fana Monastery near the southern city of Minya.
Officials have sought to play down the incident, saying it was a personal rather than sectarian issue.
The clashes broke out when the monastery began building a wall around neighboring property after receiving final approval earlier this year.
Egypt's Copts -- the largest Christian community in the Middle East complain of systematic discrimination and harassment.
Tensions often run high between Egypt's Muslim and Christian communities in an increasingly religious society dominated by Sunni Muslims.
The time when Islam will be peaceful is when Islam will be no more
When muslims are confronted with the violent history of islam's barbaric raids on the peaceful countries of the Mideast, Spain, and Europe, they're quick to point to Indonesia and ask, did islam spread by violence there?
Well, yes it did. How could it be possible that a cult based on violence, be spread peacefully? It's against the logic and doctrine of islam itself. As they say, "The most beautiful woman can't give more than what she has."
The most obvious example that islam can't be spread peacefully, is mohammad himself. He tried to spread islam peacefully for thirteen years between his own people, and only succeeded in attracting 72 people, that included his family and the family of his 6 years old, "bride," Eisha. That's when he realized that the sword and cutting heads is the way to go.
It's always good to remind muslims that the man who raised mohammad, and was like a father to him, Abdel Mutalib, never believed muhammad, even at the last moments before his death, he refused muhammad's pleading with him to accept islam.
When muslims boast that no muslim leaves islam, remind them of the famous, "Apostasy war." When muhammad died, most of the muslims in Arabia rejected islam. Abu bakr, Eisha's father and first Caliph, waged against them ferocious wars to subjugate them by force and bring them back to islam in chains.
These are just elementary historical facts, from the islamic history books, to give the Western readers basic answers to muslims deceptive questions, or claims.
This article also exposes the hidden reality, only for those who don't know, of the support by the islamic governments and their political parties for the muslim terrorists, which are called, "Radicals," in the West. And we showed that clearly in our previous posting exposing the ethnic cleansing of the Copts of Egypt, and the silent holocaust of all Christians in every muslims dominated country.
Clash between fundamentalism and modernism
Opinion News - Saturday, June 14, 2008
Ahmad Junaidi, Jakarta
"Awas, ada orang Islam!" (Watch out, Muslims are coming!) is now a joke among activists after the brutal attack by members of the Islam Defenders Front (FPI) on participants of a peaceful rally organized by the National Alliance for the Freedom of Faith and Religion (AKKBB).
Some probably view the joke as blasphemy against the religion of the Prophet Muhammad but others might see a lesson behind it.
Traditional ulemas would quickly deny that Islam teaches violence, but progressive scholars directly condemn the attack and would admit the brutality has its roots in the religion's teachings.
It's probably not exaggerating to say that Sunday's rallies around the National Monument (Monas) in Central Jakarta were representative of a continuing battle between fundamentalists and supporters of civil society.
The FPI claimed their attack was provoked by newspaper advertisements by the AKKBB which, among other things, supported Ahmadiyah, a sect considered heretical by the Indonesian Ulema Council.
A national conservative newspaper (thank God, it's only one) even wrote, "Ahmadiyah is the problem", and blamed the government for not banning the religious sect.
The FPI, who joined another rally organizing a sharia-supporting group and protesting the fuel prices hike in front of the Presidential Palace, decided that beating infidels who commemorate the secular state ideology of Pancasila was more important.
In a soccer game, the FPI is probably similar to Zinedine Zidane, the French player who headbutted Italian defender Marco Materazzi for verbally offending him in the 2006 World Cup.
Religious violence is actually not new in Indonesia despite the claim that Islam arrived here in peace, brought by Indian Gujarat traders and propagated by preachers known as Wali Songo.
A newly reprinted book with the subtitle, Teror Agama Islam Mazhab Hambali Di Tanah Batak (Islam's Hambali School of Terror in Batak Land), by Mangaradja Onggang Parlindungan, described how puritans forced their beliefs and killed the locals in the 1800s.
Fundamentalism here has its roots in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, says Muslim scholar Azyumardi Azra in his book, The Origins of Islamic Reformism in Southeast Asia.
The current radical organizations are also led by ulemas (they called themselves habib) who have relations -- cultural and probably financial -- to the Middle East.
It's true the FPI is small -- and maybe frightful -- but some may view the fundamentalist group is part of a larger group, including political parties which are still hiding their eternal dream to change the country into an Islamic state.
Supporters of the AKKBB, many of them Muslims, view these groups as a threat to a pluralistic Indonesia, the idea of which has begun to dim in the hearts of its citizens, including its leaders.
Similar reasons could be used to understand why the police are also afraid to take actions against radicals who recently destroyed mosques and properties of Ahmadiyah members.
But certain officials might still think radical groups can be used to lessen their burden to maintain security.
We still remember the civilian militia groups (pamswakarsa) that were actually established to fight pro-reform activists in 1998. A military commander and a police chief reportedly helped establish the groups.
Like Soeharto who tried to attract Muslims due to the weakening support from the military near the end of his power, certain elements in the government might seek support from the FPI and other fundamentalist groups to maintain their power even while sacrificing the country's unity.
These power-greedy opportunists do not care about any ideology as long as they can be elected in the general elections next year.
They visited and showed sympathy to a radical leader, whose followers tortured AKKBB activists at the rally.
But with the support of diverse elements of civil society, including mass media, the incident could be used to strengthen our commitment to democracy, a political system which does not tolerate violence.
Let's make the Monas tragedy a stepping stone toward a more democratic country that protects diversity in term of cultures, and faiths, including differences within a religion.
If we fail to learn from the tragedy, we will witness more violence which could lead to the breakup of the country. We would see uniformity, instead of diversity.
If we ignored the incident, we will watch more and more goateed people in Pakistani attire carry sticks and beat others who considered heretical.
And the joke, Awas, ada orang Islam, is no longer a joke. The joke teller would probably be considered defaming his religion.
The writer is a journalist at The Jakarta Post. He can be reached at junaidi@thejakartapost.com
Exclusive detailed report from Sons of Apes and Pigs
The whole truth about the butchery and desolation in the oldest Monastery in the world, Deir Abu Fana, in Egypt
The details of the Egyptian government conspiracy, on all levels, in their continuous efforts of oppression and ethnic cleansing of Christian Copts and Christianity in Egypt.
Mubarak turned Egypt to a major islamic terrorists breeding country, starting by his security police, to please and cash from his Saudi masters and extort the West.
The ethnic cleansing of Christians in Egypt and in every muslims dominated country is the unmistakable sign of a coming Islamic upheaval in the West.
The diabolical double game of deception played by the Islamic world and performed, according to mohammad’s famous doctrine, “ War is deception,” by the king of Saudi Arabia and Ali Gomaa, the Mufti of Egypt to anesthetize the Western world with peaceful words of interfaith dialogue, while pursuing the “cast in stone” dictum, confirmed twice in the Koran 2:193 and 8:39, “And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and all religion be to Allah (the whole world converted to islam.)
The dissemination of disinformation and lies by the major Western press agencies is a flagrant complicity with the Islamic world, that caused already in the Western world the slaughtering of thousands, destructions, and still misleading the Western public which will lead to more slaughtering and desolation, and ultimately to a conflagration with unpredictable consequences.
The first hand account of the Abu Fana Monastery events
Since last Saturday, at 5 pm Egypt local time, we at – Coptic News Organization - were in direct, nonstop contact over the phone with the monks in Abu Fana Monastery, 190 miles south of Cairo, monitoring the events, minutes after the indescribable barbaric criminal attack by more than 60 muslims, round the clock, nonstop. We were over the phone, hearing the massive automatic weapons gun fire that you can have a glimpse of it in the video clip, which none of the so called major news agencies did.
The thugs, the followers of the butcher of nations, the laughing killer (this is one of muhammad’s famous name) attacked the peaceful, harmless, and unarmed monks in their desert Monastery of Abu Fana that existed 300 years before the curse of islam reached Egypt, and again spread their butchery and desolation for the second time this year. We reported the last attack in January 13, 2008, and a similar incident took place in Minya in October, resulting in 20 people receiving injuries. In total, this is the eighteenth attack in the last four years by the same neighboring muslim gang lead by a well known ex-police informer, and not one of these muslim thugs were ever arrested or prosecuted.
John 16:2:
“A time is coming when anyone who kills you will think he is offering a service to God.”
Matthew 24
"And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people."
Matthew 7:15
[ A Tree and Its Fruit ] "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
Results of the attack:
- One church was set on fire; another one was destroyed to the ground, Bibles, crosses, Icons, holy utensils of the Altars were desecrated, spit at, thrown to the ground, stepped and urinated on.
- Four of the monks were shot and wounded. One was beaten with iron bars.
(Father Bakhom ,Father Saweris , Father Veni , Father Micheal , And a fifth monk )
- Three monks and a Christian that was visiting the Monastery (Father Maximous, Father Yoanas, Father Andrawes, and the brother of Father Mina who was visiting the monastery at the time of the attack) were kidnapped. The three monks were freed from the hands of the muslim attackers and brought to the monastery the next day by the police, after thousands of angry Copts gathered at the diocese of El Minya, being aware of the extreme gravity of the kidnapping of symbols of the church, and the catastrophe it could cause in Egypt, and internationally due to the immediate reactions, and monitoring from all the Coptic organizations in the Western world. The condition of the three monks was extremely critical, they were barely alive, not able to walk or stand on their feet after they suffered indescribable torture for refusing to say the shahada ( Islamic profession of faith) and to spit on the cross. Every time they refused to recite the shahada they were stoned and even muslim women were spitting on them, putting sands in their eyes, ears, and mouth. They were lynched, lashed with electric cables, buried to their waist and stoned again, blind folded and attached to palm trees and beaten with wooden bats that crushed their back, arms, and leg bones. Their ears were cut; they were hit on their sexual organs. Islam and sex are inseparable (that’s one of muslims favorite treatment for kafirs), to refresh your memory, read about the Christian missionaries in Turkey, here.
Nothing unusual here, it's perfectly in line with what they're told to do, according to the koran, 8:12, " I will instil terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips off them."
The kidnapped Christian visitor, brother of one of the fathers of the Monastery, is still not accounted for. According to the three other monks kidnapped with him, he was last seen by them being tortured to force him to recite the bloody Islamic shahada. The fact that no words or answers from the security police about his whereabouts, and the fact he was not brought back with the other three monks make us strongly believe that he was killed.
The question that all the Copts, whether in Egypt or across the world, are asking: If the police succeeded in getting back the three kidnapped monks, why they didn’t arrest the kidnapers and the attackers, and why the disappearance of the fourth kidnapped person is still unsolved?
- Several workers that were performing various jobs at the monastery during the attack were also wounded.
- All the Monastery’s farms, including orange, citrus, olives, and mushrooms farms were destroyed and all farm buildings set on fire. These monks succeeded in the last ten years, with their knowhow, to set the standards for modern farming, and make the desert bloom in the land belonging to the Monastery, using the latest techniques to obtain results that could’ve been a model for all the desert land of Egypt, that represent more than 90% of a country where people are dying for a loaf of bread, and importing 75% of its food. But this is not how muslims think. Their prophet didn’t tell them to labor the land or to emulate other people success, but to steal it, same as mohammad exterminated the Jewish and Christian populations of Arabia to steal their lands and their properties. And what they can’t steal, they destroyed. That’s why their ultimate aim is the destruction of Israel for committing the biggest sin in the eyes of muslims, succeeding.
For muslims, this is called business as usual in our language. In their language it’s called religion, cast in their hateful, but “very holy” Koran by their thug prophet alter ego, allah himself. In case you’re just getting acquainted with the religion of the prophet of thugs, and not to be accused of making this up, read it for yourself, Koran 33:27, “And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (Before). And Allah has power over all things.”
- Chicken farm, fish farm, Honey bees, were set on fire and destroyed. They dynamited the fish farm in a way that the fish were sprayed on the surrounding land. No people on earth can compete with the followers of the prophet of doom in their hate capacity for what is good, and their love capacity for evil.
- The water station and irrigation lines were destroyed.
- Electric power generators were stolen, and power lines destroyed.
- Agricultural machinery and equipments were stolen or burned and destroyed (another mohammad’s islamic legacy).
- Construction materials and equipments were looted.
- Cell phones, Cameras, computers, money, and farms produce were looted.
- Eight monks living cells and living quarters for visitors that come to the monastery for worshipping, and monastic life seekers that were not destroyed in the previous attacks were all burned and destroyed.
The police, located 4 miles away, was called as soon the attack started at 5 pm. They arrived at 9 pm despite hearing the gun fire sounds, same as us, over the phone, their perfect knowledge of the gravity of the situation, the history of all the destructive previous attacks, and knowing, " their friends, and associates," that are committing the attacks.
After the arrival of the security police at 9 pm, the attackers continued their shooting and destruction till 10 pm, while the security officers questioning and interrogating the monks.
No attempt by the police, neither in this attack or the previous ones, to arrest any of the attackers, whom they perfectly know, or even to launch any forensic examination, or report the attack to the district attorney. Instead, the police asked the monks to call and ask the Christian contractor responsible for building the wall around the monastery to come from his house, located 18 miles away. At his arrival, he was taken to the police station for questioning after assuring the monks that it’s only a matter of procedure that won’t take more than an hour. The next day, the contractor, that was 18 miles away from the monastery during the attack, was officially declared arrested and accused of killing one of the muslim attackers.
This has been the famous no brainer trick, and pattern used by the Egyptian authorities, for every attack on the Copts, during the last thirty years, to arrest Christian scapegoats and accuse them falsely with various crimes according to the situation, and then blackmail the Christian authorities of the church to drop the charges and the case against the muslim attackers, in exchange of the release of the Christian “scapegoats,” and a declaration that both sides were equally responsible.
Let’s assume that one of the attackers that shot and wounded four monks got killed from someone at the monastery, wouldn’t that be considered by all the laws of the world to be a legitimate self defense? When you’ll see the power of the gun fire attack in the video clip, you’ll be the judge to answer that question.
The refusal of the district attorney to come to scene of the attack, the monastery, or to launch an investigation of the events.
- Through a phone conversation With Father Mina, one of the monks at the monastery, he Stated, “the police was so complacent, and several officers were just watching and laughing.”
Neither the police, neither the justice department represented by the public district attorney produced any details about the alleged, “killed” muslim, or any forensic or medical examiner autopsy report.
El Menya governor, police general Diaa Eddin Mohamed Ahmed Khalil announced on all television channels, with a very straight face without blinking and with no apparent sense of shame, that, “both groups, muslims and Christian monks exchanged fire.” Without giving any forensic proof, except that one of the muslims got “killed.” He just forgot to mention that the only weapons the monks and priests used, all along the Coptic church 2000 years of history, is the cross, and their prayers.
In another television interview, he declared again that the monks opened fire on the attackers, and a muslim got killed. Adding, “this is just a skirmish between two neighbors about the right of ownership of a piece of land that has nothing to do with religion.”
Questions: Since the governor is aware of the existence of fire weapons in the monastery, where those weapons are, and how come the authorities allow monasteries to have fire weapons? Doesn’t that simply means that the governor is not doing his job, and he’s not qualified for his position. But this also a coded message to justify attacks on Christian monastery and churches, since his declaration implied that monasteries are armed, and according to the shariaa law, Christians are denied to carry, or to own arms. This is an extremely dangerous announcement that means monks and priests are armed and represent a danger to the country that should be fought and attacked. So any attack on a Church or a monastery can't be viewed as an attack on unarmed innocent people.
The governor and the police authorities announced that, only, “one” muslim was a victim, from more than sixty muslim attackers, that should mean that all the monks were aiming at the same person all the time. What a coincidence?
The honorable governor, was making these statement as if he was the governor of Kabul or Kandahar in Afghanistan, and these are just normal events, or as he put it, “it’s just a skirmish between two good neighbors.” Putting equally on the same scale a gang of terrorist killers and robbers, and peaceful loving monks that deserted the world for a life of prayers, worship and productive work to benefit the country.
Saying that this, “skirmish,” have nothing to do with religion, is an indication from the governor that justice based on truth is not an option for the Copts in this case, as it was never an option for them since the barbarian hordes of mohammad brought their curse to Egypt 1400 years ago. His declaration is meant to be the conclusion of the case, based on his own falsification of the facts.
The stupid question here is: when muslims have disagreements between themselves about a piece of land, do they attack, and shoot to kill each other with automatic weapons, kidnap, stone, lynch, lash, and crush each other’s hands and legs?
And assuming it is a piece of land disagreement between muslims and Christians, which is not the case, is this is the governor, and the Egyptian government accepted standard to resolve that disagreement, by burning churches, kidnapping monks, forcing them to spit on the cross, convert to islam, cutting their ears, crushing their hands and feet, bringing women to fill their eyes, ears and mouth with sands, plus all what you’ll see in the video clip?
Let’s reverse the roles, and assume that the Copts attacked muslims over a dispute for a piece of land, and burned their mosques, destroyed their properties, spat on the Koran, cursed mohammad, kidnapped and tortured their imams to force them to convert to Christianity, shot and critically wounded four other imams, and caused what you will see in the video clip, would the honorable governor, the Egyptian authorities, and the media say that, “ this is just a skirmish between two neighbors that have nothing to do with religion?”
I guess you know the answer. For just a cartoon on a piece of paper, or few words on islam from the Pope of Rome in the context of an academic speech, they put the world on fire. They massacred Christians across the world, burned churches, bombed embassies with the latest one just few days ago, the Danish embassy in Pakistan with all the casualties and innocent victims blown to pieces. They terrorized, and still terrorizing the world with no end in sight. All this just for a cartoon on a piece of paper, how much more they would do if what they did to the monastery and the monks were applied on them by Christians, and by the Copts of Egypt? It’s no brainer, I wouldn’t even try to guess the number of Copts slaughtered or the number of churches put on fire. And it wouldn’t be only limited to Egypt, Christians would be massacred and churches would be put on fire in every Islamic dominated country. They are already doing it voluntarily without any provocation. So imagine their delight to have this hoped for excuse to indulge and excel with the most religious zeal in applying what they worshipped and prayed for from birth, to kill, destroy, and spread desolation and more oceans of blood, all this and more while praising allah for giving them the opportunity to fulfill his curses on these cross worshippers. This was, and still is their major contribution to the world since 1400 years ago.
One of the muslims’ slogan that became famously known is, “first the Saturday people, and then the Sunday people.” It is clear that they are simply proceeding according to plan. They effectively cleansed the Saturday people from every muslims dominated country, and are now focused to finish up, what they started 1400 years ago, the Sunday people, to guarantee their place in their allah’s killers’ paradise.
Another stupid question: why the Egyptian police didn’t produce, and expose to the world the weapons used by the “Jihadist” monks? But again, what’s the use of asking stupid questions to the expert Egyptian police?
And what about the weapons of the muslim attakers? But that’s a very naïve questions.
Two fire trucks arrived, two hours after the police arrival, and after the fire consumed all what was meant to be burned.
No ambulance for the injured monks and they were taken to the nearest government hospital (Mallawi hospital) in a truck used for animal transportation. In the hospital, doctors refused to treat them, to abstain from issuing reports confirming the cause of the wounds. Which will be considered aiding the cause of the kafirs against muslims. We’re talking here about the noble medical profession and doctors that swore to uphold the Hippocrate’s Oath, but this is now the Egypt that produced the most famous doctor in the world that also recited the same oath, Dr. Al Zawahri.
As a side note, we have live recorded confessions from Egyptian ex-muslim doctors that rejected islam after they witnessed and documented the intentional murder of hundreds of Christian patients (that’s the number they personally witnessed, just in the hospitals they worked at), per year, in government’s public hospitals, by muslim doctors acting with a completely clear conscience, and even admitting it confidentially, but proudly between themselves, and praising allah for giving them the opportunity to do it “medically,” and professionally. Either by committing intentional errors during surgeries, or prescribing wrong medications based on erroneous diagnosis. It is also a known fact that the medical schools and the medical board in Egypt are totally controlled by the Muslims brotherhood.
Back to the events.
The wounded monks and workers were then taken, after the intervention of Coptic authorities and lawyers, to El Minya city main Hospital. They were left in the emergency reception with no medical care, bleeding for four hours, and in urgent need of blood transfusions. The muslim “doctors” excuse was, “there is no blood at the hospital that correspond to the monks blood type.” Of course, their blood types is that of apes and pigs.
Immediately, our Coptic rooms on the Paltalk that were transmitting the events, nonstop, alerted the Coptic population and churches close to the hospital for the urgent need of blood donors. Within the hour, hundreds of angry Copts gathered front of the hospital, but were denied entry to donate blood by the police for “Undisclosed” security reasons.
While the condition of the wounded monks was deteriorating, the officials at the hospital announced that their injuries are very superficial, and only requires simple medical procedures.
That was Sunday 2 pm. At 2:30pm, Coptic Pope Shenouda’s office and the highest authority of the church in Cairo immediately arranged the transportation of all the monks and the other victims to a private Cairo Coptic owned hospital. At their arrival, they were all rushed to the intensive care unit, and all required extensive surgeries. In particular, two of the monks that were kidnapped required extremely complicated surgeries that lasted more than nine hours. One monk is still risking the amputation of his crushed arm, and another almost lost his site from being viciously hit on the head with the back of a riffle and the sand put in his eyes.
With the usual cover-ups and “Taquia” lies from all Egyptian government institutions and officials, the Copts of Mallawi and surrounding areas of Deir (pronounced: dare, meaning monastery) abu Fana in the province of El Minya, which has a high concentration of Copts that suffered the harshest oppression and losses in lives and properties from muslims attacks, and the government systematic persecution during the last forty years, and not one single muslim being condemned, started to gather on Sunday at the diocese Cathedral in protest, chanting in defiance, “ With our blood and soul, we will defend the cross,” and appealing to Hosni Mubarak, the president, to intervene and let the truth and justice prevail, and save the country from an imminent catastrophe because, “ The Coptic hearts are on fire.”
The attack on Deir Abu Fana last Saturday followed the massacre of a Coptic jeweler and three of his Coptic employees on Wednesday in Cairo, and another Coptic-owned jewelry store was targeted the next day, Thursday, this time in the port city of Alexandria.
The security police surrounded the Cathedral, since Sunday afternoon and provoked clashes with the Copts protesting, peacefully, inside the Cathedral gates.
On Monday, the spokesman priest of the diocese of Mallawi announced that the presumed “killed” muslim victim was known in the area, and his father declared sometimes ago that he wanted to get rid of him for being gravely mentally retarded. The spokesman added that this person never set foot on the land of the monastery, and no corpse was ever found by the police on the monastery’s land. He stated, very bluntly, that this presumed, “victim,” has been definitely killed somewhere else, and the accusations of the monks by the police is another deception by the police authority of the province to blackmail the Copts.
On Wednesday, another dramatic event that had the effect of heating up the emotions and disgust of the Copts in El Minya province. In a village called Dafsh, about seventy miles from Mallawi, a twenty five year old muslim killed his twenty two year old Christian neighbor by stabbing him to death.
On Thursday, hundreds of Coptic youths started to gather front of Saint Mary’s and Saint George Church in the center of the village, protesting peacefully, and demanding that the killer be judged and punished. The riot police dispersed them on Friday morning, using tear bombs.
Friday afternoon, they gathered again at the church in the afternoon for the funeral. After the burial, they were provoked and shouted at by muslim youths. The situation quickly escalated to clashes between the two groups that prompted a massive intervention by the riot police to disperse both groups and impose a curfew on the whole village. The police announced the arrest of the muslim killer and investigating the case.
Also Thursday: in the village of El Kosheh, which made the world news in January 2000, for, "The massacre of the millinium," was the scen of another dramatic events. A security officer driving his car, hit and killed a Christian copt, according to many eye witnesses. El Kosheh have a population of 35000 Christians and 5000 muslims. The police authorities provided witnesses testifying that it wasn't the officer driving the car.
Today, Sunday: The Egyptian government media is still insisting that the reason for the attack on Deir Abu Fana, was robbery, and to prevent the building of wall to protect the monastery. Religion and terrorism were not an issue. The slaughtering of four Coptic Jewelers in Cairo was also for robbery. Denying the jihad terrorism against the Copts or Christians is the surest thing for it to continue. How they would fix something that doesn’t exist. No doctor can cure a disease if the patient deny he’s sick.
This is exactly what’s happening in the West. The war on terror is a deceiving term; it’s a war on the symptoms of terror, or the consequences of terror. When you eliminate cancerous cells on top of the skin you don't eliminate cancer, you have to extirpate it from its roots, or it will spread all over the body. They may succeed to destroy some rotten fruits, but the tree is producing other fruits, every day. And the tree producing the rotten fruits is the koran, and islamic teaching.
These are not just words; these are simple facts that doesn’t require a high IQ to figure out, and time will prove it.
All what the Christians in Egypt and especially the monks in the desert, and native Christians in every muslims dominated country are looking for is their right to live and their freedom of belief. Is that too much asking?
Yes, it is too much asking according to islamic government, it's against islam. For them, the cornerstone of their religion is to kill all who don’t submit to their allah, Koran 9:29, "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Muslims are the only people on earth that it's against their religion to, "live and let live." Their "faith," order them to live and kill, those who don't adhere to the same, "live and kill," doctrine.
The question of all questions, not only for us as Copts, but for the whole Western world, who are the real terrorists, the ones that pull the trigger and cause death and desolation, or the ones giving them the means, facilitating, covering up and blessing their actions?
The terrorists are not Bin Laden, Zawahri, Zarkawi and company. They execute what they were taught and told to do. They're just the foot soldiers. You can kill them all, it won't make a dent. The koran is producing thousands in madrassas all over the islamic world, and even in the Western world every day.
Naïve those who will think that this is a remote Coptic issue, or that the silent holocaust going on against all Christians in muslims dominated countries is also a remote issue that doesn’t, and won’t affect the West. All Islamic governments, especially Egypt and Saudi Arabia are spreading the Islamic disease in every Western country through their well established bases, mosques, schools, muslim centers, islamic organizations and official missions. Jihad will always be their biggest export product, they have the money to finance it, as it is already happening now, and their people are already within us.
All these Islamic government officials, including their leaders (thugs), and their security apparatus that are the real instigators of Christians cleansing in their countries, whom they hate and consider them part of the Western kafir world that they’re aiming to Islamize, how is it conceivable that these same governments and their security apparatus cooperate with the Western governments or with their law enforcement agencies, with good faith, to fight Islamic terrorism against the Christian kafirs in the West, when their main focus is to eliminate the Christians in their own countries.
It is important to know that governors in Egypt are not elected, but are chosen by the president. In other words, the governor is only the mouth piece, and his declarations are dictated to him by the government and the president of Egypt. Never, in the course of these grave and terrorist events, Mubarak, the dictator of Egypt and the lackey of his masters the Saudis, which his era has been one of the most oppressive for Christians, never intervened or ordered an investigation. Would he be that silent if this attack, destruction and butchery happened to a mosque or an Islamic institution?
As for the moderate muslims in Islamic countries or their brothers and sisters in the West, their answer is crystal clear: they agree, there is no persecution or ethnic cleansing for Christians in their countries of origin. But let what happened to the monastery in Egypt, or to Christians in every Islamic country, happen to them and their mosques in the West, and they would put the world on fire. No need to waste more time trying to define moderate muslims in the West. They perfectly defined themselves, and made it clear on whose side they are.
These are the same Islamic countries that allowed the dancing on the streets, and distribution of candies to celebrate the 911 massacres, which they called, the Islamic conquest of New York.
Al Qaeda started from Egypt by Al Zawahri’s Islamic terrorist group,
The lies and deceptions about the Abu Fana monastery events, spread by the major Western press agencies
By Agence France Presse (AFP). Monday, June 02, 2008
Deadly Muslim-Christian clashes in Egypt
MINYA, Egypt: One Muslim man was killed and four Coptic Christians, including two monks, injured Saturday when a land dispute involving a historic monastery in Egypt turned violent, a security official said. Khalil Ibrahim Mohammed, a Muslim resident of a town neighboring the Abu Fana Monastery near the southern city of Minya, was killed during clashes with Christians, the official said. The clashes broke out when the monastery began building a wall around neighboring property after receiving final approval earlier this year. Tensions often run high between Egypt's Muslim and Christian communities in an increasingly religious society dominated by Sunnis. – AFP
No mention of muslims attack on the Monastery, shooting to kill monks. No mention of kidnapped and tortured monks. They call it, “The clashes (instead of attacks)broke out when the monastery began building a wall around neighboring property after receiving final approval earlier this year.”
According to AFP, the “Clashes broke,” when Christians began building …” That makes the Christians the guilty ones that provoked the clashes.
Christians didn’t go to clash with muslims, they were attacked in their own Monastery by muslim terrorists thugs. This should’ve been called: Deadly muslim attack on Christian monks in their monastery.
For disseminating this deception, AFP is very appropriate for: Another Foolish Posting
Sat May 31, 2008 6:37pm EDT
Egyptian Christians, Muslims clash, killing one
CAIRO, May 31 (Reuters) - One Egyptian Muslim was killed and four Christians were wounded on Saturday in a clash over disputed land near a Christian monastery in central Egypt, security sources said.
Muslim Khalil Mohammed, 39, was killed by gunfire, the sources said, speaking on condition of anonymity. At least two of the wounded Christians were monks at the monastery, the sources added.
The groups exchanged fire after Christians in the town of Mallawy, about 300 km (190 miles) south of Cairo, began constructing a wall around disputed land near the Abu Fana monastery, the sources said.
Same deception: Clash over disputed land. And then Reuters becomes the accomplice of the ultimate falsification of truth with this, “The groups exchanged fire.”
Reuters should’ve known better, that monks never carry weapons, and that the Egyptian Coptic Church has been called all along history, the Church of the Martyrs. All this proves one of three things, either Reuters people are accomplice, with the Egyptian government, in criminal cover-ups and deceptions with total disregard to the intellectual integrity of their readers. Or, they rely on sources that freelance for them in their free time, when not selling falafel and tahini sandwiches, or, their reporters job now is limited to copy and paste, which is exactly what happened. They should be called, Reuters C&P News
That goes for all the so called major press agencies, that you wake up every morning to be fed on their disinformation and deceptions, especially when it comes to Islamic related news.
To summarize: the major catchy highlight of the news reported by those agencies is: Deadly muslim-Christian clashes in Egypt, Both groups exchanged fires, and one Egyptian muslim was killed. The rest is the trash stuffing.
If 60 Christians with Kalashnikov automatic weapons stormed a mosque, attacking 12 non armed imams. Destroying and burning the mosque and property, shooting several imams, kidnapping and torturing four of them. Several hours later, three of the kidnapped imams were found in critical conditions… etc.
Would the News agencies call this: Muslim-Christian clash? I doubt it, but you are the judge.
One of the most flagrant deceptions, caught and exposed to the whole world, which exposed the major press agencies disinformation industry, was the shameful fabricated staged scenario of “Al Dura,” affaire by France 2, one of the major French TV channels.
On May 21, 2008, the French Court of Appeals ruled that France 2 correspondent Charles Enderlin and his Palestinian cameraman and France 2 stringer Talal Abu Rahma, staged the “death” of 12-year old Mohamed Al Dura in September 2000 to smear the Israel Defense Forces and blacken Israel’s name, inciting further violence and fueling the second intifada.
Middle East and media expert Tom Gross: "today's ruling shows there are serious doubts about France 2's version of events, and that the entire world press was irresponsible in being so quick to take at face value the claims of a local Palestinian cameraman, who has admitted his partisanship."
The question is: how many out there are disseminating their deceptions who haven’t admitted yet?
This past week has been very concentrated in events that kept us focused on a situation that is still boiling, and in our analysis, highly explosive. The radicalization in Egypt is gaining momentum and all signs are pointing to more dramatic, if not catastrophic events, and not only regarding Copts issues.
But this only reinforce our resolve and perseverance to fight islam, destroy their evil ideology, and expose it more to the world. For us, and the Western world, islam doesn't offer any other option, even if Western governments don't realize it yet. With islam, what people or governments don't realize is totally irrelevant, and past history is best proof for that. How many times people don't realize many things, but it never immune them from the consequences
We have several hours of video footage showing more in details damages and the condition of the wounded and tortured monks and other workers, unfortunately we didn't had yet the time to subtitle them in english. What I want you to see in this video, from the minute 1:33, is the barbaric attack, the fire power of the attackers, the damage, and the scene of desolation of what used to be an Oasis of peace, serenity and blooming desert.
Part of the transcript (a monk in an advanced position describing to another father in the old part of the monastery the destruction and the attack over his cell phone).
- Gun shots ... father .. father ... they're destroying the church of Pope Kyrollos (He was the previous Pope of the church till 1971, and one of the church Saint) .. father .. they're using the excavator to destry the building ... they're destroying the whole building ... they're also destroying the cells .. and the restaurant .. father .. they're going towards the honey bees building ... yes father .. oh Lord .. father .. they're destroying the honey bees building ...
The truth about the attack on Abu Fana Monastery
For the last twenty five years, muslim fundamentalists attacked and robbed Coptic jewelers who refused to pay the jeziah
It's worth noting that the all powerful Egyptian security apparatus never succeeded in bringing any of the perpetrators to justice.
May 28, 2008
Two men on motorbike enter Copts owned jewellery shop in Egyptian capital's Zeitoun district, shoot dead owner, staff.
The victims included the owner, named as Makram Gamil, 60, and one of his staff, named as Makram Salib, 22, both of them Christians. The other names were not immediately available.
CAIRO - Two men in wigs and sunglasses shot dead four Coptic Christians jewellery shop workers in the Egyptian capital on Wednesday in an apparent gangland-style killing, a security official and witnesses said.
The shooting happened at around 12:30 pm (0930 GMT) in the mixed Christian-Muslim district of Zeitoun in northeast Cairo, the official said, adding that the attackers escaped without stealing anything from the shop.
Eyewitnesses said that the men arrived at the shop on a motorbike, walked in and shot dead the shop's owner and three employees before driving away, in a rare act of brazen bloodshed in the capital.
"Preliminary investigations show that the motivation behind the attack could have been revenge," the official said, adding that the owner had frequent disputes with local residents.
The official had initially said the killings were the result of a drive-by shooting.
Police, who swiftly cordoned off the area, found 15 revolver shell casings at the scene, the official said.
Cairo's Zeitoun district is a famed pilgrimage site where, according to witness accounts, the Virgin Mary appeared above the Church of Saint Mary over a period of several years in the late 1960s.
The apparitions were seen by millions including Copts, Muslims, Jews and atheists.
Egypt's Copts - the largest Christian community in the Middle East - account for an estimated twelve to 15 percent of the country's 80 million inhabitants and complain of systematic discrimination and harassment.
Tensions often run high between Egypt's Muslim and Christian communities in an increasingly religious society dominated by Sunni Muslims.
ViVa Italia: The first demolished mosque in Italy, to be "The Oriana Fallaci Parc"
The writing is on the wall, and the bulldozers are out.
Muslim Organizations, their media, their apologists, their fifth columnists, and their dogs are mourning, while looking for revenge, to perfidiously strike back, by using all the tricks of subversions to spread their venom that is always ready at the tip of their tongue.
They started already, with the announcement of this great news, for us, with their trademark of deception, by claiming that the responsibility for that terrorists nest (mosque) cleanup was done by the Italian Rightist party. But let no one swallow the bait and slip into their sewer trap.
The cleanup of those Jihadists infection was done by the government of the Republic of Italy elected lawfully to implement the will of the Italian people. Full stop. Our Civilized laws are not fabricated by Mullahs, Ayatollahs, Hezbollah, or cooked in El Doha -Qatar, under the guardianship of a seventh century turban head, with the patronage of a thug in chief, and an assassin in chief as they did to Lebanon.
Having said this, I invite all the anti-jihadists sites reporting this news, not to be distracted by the devout deceivers and their use of divisive terminology. It's nothing new for them. They're the same people that goes to the Christians telling them, "How you deal with the Jews that killed your Jesus," and then turn around to tell the Jews, "How can you deal with the Christians that massacred you." Same old tricks, now they play the rightists – leftists divide, but let them swallow their saliva. The fact is, the Italian people have spoken.
For 1400 years, muslims made it a habit to destroy, burn, and loot Churches and Synagogues in every country they attacked to steal, that's how they want to finish up with Israel as well. The ones they couldn't destroy, they simply turned to mosques. Hagia Sophia, and the Ummayyad mosque in Damascus, just to name two landmark Churches that are still standing today to condemn the religion of thieves and robbers. But they still dare to tell us with a straight face that theirs is the religion that respect and love all other religions. We know their love slogan, “love them, to rob them."
This is the most posthumous honor to vindicate Oriana Fallaci that was sued visciously on several occasions by muslims before her death. And a sweet revenge for the great lady that sounded the alarm till her last noble breath, of the death that always comes with islam. As another great lady said it, the fight is not against islamofascism, fundamental islam, political islam, B.S. islam, it's islam. Mosques, the spearheads acting as the predatory takeover by muslims to conquer and change the European landscape, aiming to erase every symbol of the Judeo - Christian civilization from our cities and even our neighbourhoods.
I can't help but salute the struggle of another great lady, Brigitte Bardot, for having the courage to speak up against the islamization plague in France.
Last but not least, a very big Viva l'Italia, and a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig hug to all the the true Italians, without whom this could've not been possible. Keep up the good work, and never forget that you're the sons and daughters, of the great Garibaldi, and the least you should do is to send whoever called you, "the sons of apes and pigs," to the garbage where they belong.
One thing for sure, Italians meant business when they went to the polls to elect their new government. And certainly this will be the first salvo to celebrate the crack of the temple of allah, and show the rest of the European populations that the road to follow for the destruction of allah's terrorist cells, and give back Europe to its people, are in their ballot boxes. We have no doubt, the spirit of Oriana Fallaci, the great European symbol of courage and freedom, will also guide them on the way. The legacy of truth always lives forever.
Today Verona is not just a name of a great Italian city, but a symbol that could be synonymous with the Gates of Vienna.
Only one thing is missing, the mosque rubbles' screen savers, But there is more to come.
Italy Raze Verona Mosque to be Oriana Fallaci Parc, the best is yet to come
By Hadi Yahmid, IOL Correspondent
ROME — Italy's far-right , anti-immigrant Northern League party has elected government started its (promised) mission with bringing down a mosque in the northern city of Verona. [Emphasis and correction added.]
"The mosque destruction reinforces Muslim fears (fears is healthy and humbling) of seeing the League in the ruling coalition," Ali Abu Shwaima, the head of Milan-based Islamic Centre, told IslamOnline.net on Saturday, May 24. [Emphasis added.]
Bulldozers brought down last week a building housing a Muslim prayer (kafir's cursing) room in the city. [Emphasis added.]
"I never felt at ease with this mosque," Elisonder Antonneli, the head of Verona city council, said. [Who can blame you.]
"This place will be turned into a park and a car parking space and will be named after (Italian writer) Oriana Fallaci." [Should be called: Saint Oriana Fallaci.]
Fallaci, who died in 2006, was notorious for anti-Islam stances. {Free spirits never dies.]
Following the 9/11 attacks, the far-right writer published a book entitled "Rage and Pride" in which she ridiculed the Noble Qur'an. [The Qur'an never needed anyone to ridicule it, it's embedded in it.]
She has also authored another book "The Force of Reason" in which she warned that Europe was turning into "an Islamic province, an Islamic colony" and that "to believe that a good Islam and a bad Islam exist goes against all reason." [And against living, even for people that don't reason.]
The Northern League has four ministers in Silvio Berlusconi's government, including the portfolio of the Interior.
The League grabbed 8 percent of the vote in last month's general elections, securing Berlusconi's right-wing coalition a comfortable majority in the parliament.
The party has nearly doubled its parliamentary strength from 4.5 percent two years ago.
[ Yes, we can see that Italians certainely had something in mind, it was worth it. The best is yet to come]
The Northern League is widely accused of racism with many critics calling it the BNP of Italy, a reference to the British right-wing party.
[ You may call it our Western Shariaa Italiano style, or our Italian Wahabismo, but we don't cut heads, kill the apostate, kidnap little girls to spread our Wahabismo religion through the little girls vagina, and we don't rob you muslims with the jeziah, actually we feed you and cure your diseases.
But Look who's talking, this is the site of islam Online, co-owned by Saudi Arabia (how many Churches and Synagogues are built there? Hard to count them when they don't exist. And by sheik al Qaradawi, "World champ for suicide bombing fatwas Guiness book of record." Both considered beacons of tolerance, yet to be discovered on Al Jazeera turban head idols for allah.]
Its election campaign played on issues such as immigration crime and economic and cultural fears from immigration.
[There couldn't be better issues. Actually they could be summarized in one issue: islam, which is immigration, crime, economics (cost of muslims and mosques surveillance and siphoning the social benefits), cultural fears (raping girls and women, that the only culture muslims bring with them).]
Hard Time
Abu Shwaima, the Muslim leader, said Italian Muslims will face hard times under the far-right league.
[Abu, maybe it's time to take a sick leave, and go for some Mecca fresh air to teach those far-right league a lesson. Just stay there and keep stoning the devil till we call you.]
"We believe the life of Italian Muslims will get more complicated," he said.
[Abu, remember, "Don't take Jews and Christians as friends." Beside, they're unclean, you should trust your book and jump on the boat for Dar el islam, nothing beats the couscous mouton du bled.]
He said Muslims in the city of Verona used to find spiritual comfort at the razed mosque.
[ Oh Abu, Italians are nice people, I'm sure they wouldn't mind that every muslim takes a peace of the rock for spiritual comfort with him on the boat. For more comfort, ask for Southern comfort at the bar.]
"The mosque destruction is sign of spiraling Islamophobia in many European countries," he said.
[Oh Abu, you son of a gun, you took it out of my mouth, you're no dum, you're talented .. you're a mind reader or a good lucky guesser, when you get home buy a lottery ticket. For European, you know what the doctor says: take your country today to keep the muslims away.]
There are nearly 20,000 Muslims in Verona.
[Abu, you just reminded me, we have 3 to 4 million Christian workers in Saudi Arabia with not one church for their spiritual comfort as you call it, and when there was rumors that there may be a deal to build a church after king Abdullah met with the pope to salvage some islam respectability, the majority of your muslim people were scandalized to allow the "unclean" Christians to have an unclean Church in the holy land of your caravan robber, pedophile prophet. So I feel your pain.]
"I used to pray in the mosque for years," an Italian Muslim in Verona told IOL, requesting anonymity.
[You mean you used to curse the kafirs in that mosque for years, and ask your allah that at judgement day he takes your sins heavy as mountains and put them on the heads of those doomed Christians and Jews deserving the wrath of the hell fire. But it seems your allah didn't find your curses forceful enough, try harder next time. In the meantime, do it as koran 3:28 tells you, keep the rage in your heart and curse them in private, or go meet allah personally where you keep him enclosed in the kaaba stone in Mecca.]
"But this Friday I went to the mosque for prayers but I could not as it was razed.
[Did you looked under the rubbles, just to make sure that allah, is not buried under. What surprised me is, how that allah didn't strike the kafirs that bulldozed him and didn't strike their necks, or put terrors in the heart of the unbelievers as he keeps telling you how to do it ? Honestly, I think the allah of this mosque was a phony counterfeit, made in China]
"We live in a state of anticipation and fear after the mosque was destroyed and we want Arab and Muslim governments to pile pressures on Italy to stop anti-immigrant and anti-Islam policies."
[Oh Abu, you disappoint me, we thought your allegiance is to Italy, as you keep claiming that you're part of the Italian people, and now you want to incite your arab and muslim governments rage boy mobs to pile pressure on Italy, and Italians, the people hosting and feeding you and your tribe when you fled the misery of the house of islam to come to the house of war on kafirs. And what you mean by "pile pressures?" Like, boycott the Italian pizza, and parmegiano cheese, with a bon fire of few Italian embassies? Abu, don't you know brother that this is called sedition, and plotting with the enemy? How come you never called for "pile of pressures," on Saudi Arabia and your muslim brothers to let Christians and Jews build a church or a Synagogue? You see Abu, the Copts of Egypt, or all the Christians of the Middle east, when you burn and destroy their churches and kill them, they don't call on the Christian Western countries to "pile pressures," on the muslim governments, otherwise they would be considered as traitors. So, are you muslim traitors working with external enemies from the inside? Are you undercover agents to foreign countries? Abu, this is called Trojan horses, or blackmail and extortion, at the least. We thought you were part of us, so you tell us. We thought you came to the West so we can have a big multiculturalism feast, as u told us. And if you want Italy to stop anti-islam policies, then there will be no Italy. Better you stop islam, so we can all live peacefully. But if you love islam so much, take it somewhere else. Why you want to impose on us, your infection.]
Abu Shwaima, the Muslim leader, has a similar message.
"We want to tell the Muslim world that mosques' construction in Italy is almost a mission impossible.
[Abu, don't forget, while your at it, tell them that Church construction for Christian natives in their own countries is a mission impossible to, since your muslim mobs stole their countries, beside their systematic destruction of the existing ones. The only place in your islamic world of darkness where they don't burn, or destroy Churches is Saudi Arabia, you know why.]
"Except for the Milan-based Islamic Center and the Rome mosque, there are no real mosques in Italy."
[Don't forget Abu, Allah is in Mecca, and you should be where the real thing is. Don't go for the imitations. You don't want allah to reside with the kafirs, do you?
Last November, former Italian deputy Education Minister and League member Mariella Mazzetto angered Muslims after parading a pig on the site of a planned mosque in the northern city of Padua.
Two months earlier, League senator Roberto Calderoli called for a "Pig Day" protest against the mosque construction in the northern city of Bologna.
In 2006, protesters left a pig's head at a mosque building site in the central Italian city of Tuscany.
[ Hey Abu, don't blame us for our love for pigs. Especially in Italy, prosciutto is a big business. maybe that's why your allah called us the Sons of apes and pigs. But our pigs are clean, they don't sexually molest little piglets.]
Italy has a Muslim population of some 1.2 million, including 20,000 reverts, according to unofficial estimates.
The islamic media since yesterday is at loss, like here on islam online, they're feeling the heat, and the changing times. All their editorials today aimed at brainwashing us with their garbage. The best we should do is to recycle their garbage and serve it back to them, with the gravy.
We were told to love our enemy, but we were not told to love evil.
With Allies Like These Who Needs Enemies?
Is the United States government, and the State Department in particular, receiving good counsel from its advisors about Egypt? Egypt is the recipient of America’s second largest aid package at $2.1 billion annually. And yet the democratic reforms Egypt’s government has promised have failed to materialize, and the little progress that has been made is quickly being reversed. Egypt consistently ranks near the bottom globally in upholding human rights standards. And of particular importance to the U.S., the Egyptian government’s actions are often in direct contradiction to the best interests of America in the Middle East.
But most advisors on the Middle East, and Egypt in particular, counsel the U.S. government to accept the status quo, and especially not to attach conditions to the aid package in order to encourage change. If Egypt is supposed to be America’s strongest ally in the Middle East and is actually working against the U.S. in many ways, and if in spite of this Egypt is to continue receiving billions of dollars in aid from the U.S. government, is this good advice?
There is a particular tribe of Americans who have spent a great deal of time in Egypt, who speak the language, who fell in love with the country, and who because of these feelings have become friendly with the Egyptian government and its supporters – so much so that they almost become one of them. And it seems that the people who fall into this category have the ears of Washington policymakers.
At a fundraiser for Rep. Frank Wolf in October, Sen. John McCain said that Egypt is a good friend to America in the Middle East. McCain’s statement seems indicative of the current prevailing mode of thought in the U.S. government, the State Department in particular, and among those who advise them on Egypt. This thinking is misguided and damaging to U.S. foreign policy.
The truth is that the Egyptian government practices a two-faced policy regarding the United States. The face Egypt shows America is the one that government officials and their advisors are referring to when they speak of Egypt as America’s friend and ally. This is the face that assures the U.S. that Egypt is doing all it can to fight and contain terrorism in the Middle East and to promote America’s interests regarding Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian problem.
But the other face is the true face of the Egyptian government that is shown to its citizens and other Middle Eastern countries. It is obvious to Egyptian-Americans when we see the news or read the papers from Egypt. This is the face of the Egyptian government that encourages radical thinking and promotes it through its educational system, the media and all forms of communication with its citizens in their everyday lives. This policy is reflected clearly in changes in Egyptian society and the Middle East in general toward radicalism and Islamism in the past 30 years in particular. Two obvious examples of the promotion of radicalism by the Egyptian government come to mind:
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The uproar about the Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Muhammed was in large part encouraged, if not orchestrated, by Egyptian officials. On Oct. 17, 2005, the cartoons in question were published in an Egyptian newspaper along with an article that strongly denounced them, but there were no protests from either the Egyptian government or religious authorities. Over 2 months later, the Egyptian Ambassador to Denmark, Mona Omar Attia, stirred up a hornet’s nest by stating that the Danish Prime Minister had not responded in a way that was appropriate to “appease the whole Muslim world” and organizing international Muslim groups to take up the cause. Then at a meeting of leaders from the world’s 57 Muslim nations in Mecca, Egypt’s Foreign Minister, Aboul Gheit, circulated a report about the cartoons and other purported anti-Islamic activities in Denmark that further inflamed the Muslim world. The problem was that the report contained a great deal of erroneous information and Gheit knew it. Two Egyptians took a non-issue and manipulated it into an anti-Western crusade that culminated in violent protests worldwide.
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At the beginning of the recent Lebanon-Israel War, the Egyptian government placed the blame for the conflict squarely on Hezbollah in its communications with the U.S. and Israel. At the same time, however, local media encouraged Egyptian citizens to demonstrate in support of Hezbollah. They promoted the portrayal of Hezbollah as the brave David standing against the aggression of the giant Israel with its U.S. backing. And today Hezbollah is perceived by Egyptians as a band of heroes who were the only ones who could defeat Israel. We cannot forget that after Mubarak blamed Hezbollah on the first day of the war, a few days later he called for an unconditional cease-fire that was in direct opposition to U.S. policy at that time.
Sadly, advisors to the State Department seem to downplay such blatant anti-American and anti-Western actions in favor of promoting the current policies of the Egyptian government.
In June of 2006, the House debated the Obey/Hyde/Lantos amendment to the 2007 Foreign Appropriations Bill on June 8, 2006. The amendment would have held back $100 million in U.S. aid to Egypt in response to the Egyptian government’s abysmal human rights record. The bill was defeated by a surprisingly narrow margin, but by it not passing, Egypt was basically given a free license to cease any efforts to reform its government, to continue with its flagrant violations of human rights and to continue to work against the U.S. in the Middle East.
This vote was followed up by a hearing about U.S. aid to Egypt that was held before the House International Relations Committee, Subcommittee on the Middle East and Central Asia on June 21, 2006. At this hearing, various experts were engaged to brief the Subcommittee about the U.S. aid package to Egypt. While the testimony was mixed in its recommendations, much of the advice counseled accepting the status quo and looking to the future for any substantive change. Certain advisors even counseled that attaching any contingencies to the aid package would not only fail to prod the Egyptian government to change its ways, but might actually backfire on the U.S. and produce a recalcitrant anti-American response.
This hearing, just weeks after the amendment vote, would have been a perfect opportunity for top advisors on Egypt to educate the Subcommittee about the true nature of Egypt’s relationship with the U.S. so that they might debate the issue in the future with more knowledge about the situation. Testimony given on behalf of the Leadership Council for Human Rights did just this, but most of the other testimony sought to sweep problems under the rug and advocated the status quo. This acceptance of the current situation and implicit faith that the next generation will be more U.S.-friendly is a tacit acceptance of the face the Egyptian government wants America to see. Those who advise this government should have the ability, desire and capability to look beyond the surface at what is really going on in Egypt and the courage to expose the ugly face of anti-Americanism espoused by the Egyptian regime.
The American government, and especially the State Department, needs to see the other face of Egypt’s government. The State Department must widen its circle of advisors to include people who are more knowledgeable about Egyptian intentions and actions that are not obvious to America. The current lack of understanding of the true motivations of the U.S.’s most important ally in the Middle East is terribly damaging to our interests in that region and can no longer be ignored.
An often heard claim is that America has no power to effect change in Egypt through placing conditions on aid. History, however, shows a different reality. When Saad Eddin Ibrahim was unjustly convicted and imprisoned, it was only when America cut a post-9/11 supplemental aid package of $150 million that Egypt was spurred to overturn his conviction. Without pressure from the U.S., Ibrahim might well still be in prison. If the current advisors to the White House and the State Department provide information to the government that only reflects the views of people who choose to see Egypt’s U.S.-friendly face, we as Americans and our government will endorse the following:
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Egypt will continue to indirectly promote radical Islam, which is the largest cause of the terrorism that is threatening the civilized world. If this is allowed to continue, Iraq will become a breeding ground for more and more radicals, creating an increasingly volatile situation. And from Egypt and Iraq, even more terrorism will crop up around the globe.
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In the Middle East sectarian fighting is prevalent and indeed is the basis for most conflict. One need only look to Lebanon where Christians fight against the Muslim Hezbollah, to Iraq where Sunni fight Shia, and to Sudan where Arab Muslims fight African Muslims. As the cultural leader in the region, Egypt should be setting an example of tolerance and cooperation between various religious factions within its own borders. Egypt’s population, both Muslim and Christian, have lived in general peace and harmony for centuries until relatively recent times when a government encouraged campaign of intolerance against Coptic Christians has promoted never before seen divisions within the country. By endorsing the status quo, America will support the government of Egypt in its continued suppression, discrimination and devastation of the Copts, the largest Christian minority in the Middle East, which has been in Egypt for 2,000 years. The following are just a few of the ways in which Copts are discriminated against: Copts are denied basic economic, educational and social opportunities, governmental representation, due process in legal matters and basic civil rights. Copts are admitted in very small numbers to military schools and security training centers and are not allowed to advance to top military and civilian posts. They are not allowed to build or even repair churches without express governmental permission, which is rarely granted. And although Copts comprise 15-18% of Egypt’s total population, they are represented by only 1% of Parliamentary seats. And in a few years if the trend continues, Egypt may face a disastrous situation in regards to its Coptic population, and then we in America will truly regret our country’s lack of action.
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Ayman Nour, the hope of democracy in Egypt, the person who captured 1 million votes in the 2005 presidential election after only being allowed to campaign for 3 weeks, the one man who truly believes in American-style democracy, will remain in jail for another four years. And the Egyptian government will continue to eliminate all opposition parties in the field except the Muslim Brotherhood so it can say to the world that there are only two options: the Mubarak regime or the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Voices advocating freedom in Egypt, like Talaat Sadat, nephew of the late President Anwar Sadat, will continue to be actively suppressed. The younger Sadat was one of very few opposition voices in Parliament, and the government arranged for the Army to court martial him in a military court for speaking out about his belief that there were Army officers involved in his uncle’s assassination. Sadat was not only deprived of his right to speak freely, he was stripped of his Parliamentary seat and sentenced to prison for a year. This all took place because Sadat is a strong, frank opposition voice unafraid to speak out against government corruption. Sadat’s court martial was merely an excuse to eliminate his dissenting voice from the Parliament.
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Women will be deprived of their rights and their freedom. Egypt, once the most progressive and liberal country for women’s rights, has been sliding steadily backward in this area over the last 30 years with the rise of Islamism and radicalism. If the Egyptian government’s current policies go unchecked, women in Egypt will have few rights and no safety. That this is already happening can be seen in the kidnappings of young Christian girls and the open harassment of women that has been plaguing the streets of Cairo in recent times.
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In the last 30 years, Al-Azhar University in Cairo, the equivalent of the Vatican to Roman Catholicism in terms of its influence on Muslim thought, has become increasingly radical and conservative. Because Al-Azhar sets the tone for Muslim thinking around the world, this escalating push toward extremism is being exported to Muslim countries all over the globe, thereby providing even more fertile soil for the breeding of terrorism. Failure on the part of the American government to recognize this trend and to press the Egyptian government to curb it will result in increased danger globally.
It is absolutely crucial that the U.S. government begin to find advisors who will give it an accurate appraisal of what is really going on in Egypt. Only when it is armed with correct information will our government be able to craft a foreign policy in regards to Egypt that is in the best interests of America.
That's what they pray for five times a day, so guess who their prophet, and their allah are?
Islam is never idle. The savage events in Nigeria proves that muslims don’t have to be a majority to spread the only thing they excelled in practicing, the legacy of their thug prophet and the allah he created on his own image. Death, destruction, looting, kidnapping and raping of little girls. Which they call the islamization through the kafirs’ vagina.
Their “No compulsion in religion,” garbage, is true, since islam is anything but religion. Except the kidnapping religion, the little girls vagina’s religion, the burning of Churches religion, the looting and destruction of Christian businesses and homes religion, the beheadings religion, the subversion and deception religion, the evil’s religion, and the total desolation religion.
I’m sorry for using some explicit language, but you can’t know islam unless you can stomach its filth. Pretending or refusing to see it won’t change its reality. It will still hit you, and even more, in your back while you’re not looking. Besides, I’m not inventing the wheel; it’s all in the Koran. In case you don’t know it yet, the Koran is not only the macabre killing manual that is known to be, it’s also equally the filthiest and most graphically degrading book for women that the majority in the West still ignore. And we’ll explore that too in future postings.
All what’s happening in Nigeria is very familiar to us the Copts. Our people and our girls live with it on a daily basis. The kidnapping and islamization of vaginas (that’s the word the Koran uses) is done and organized by the devout muslim gangs under the guidance of imams and sheiks from Al azhar, with the protection of the highest government and interior ministry personalities, the blessings of the authorities, and the financing of Saudi Arabia. We even know the price paid to the kidnaper, $1500 per girl or woman, and $2000 per boy. If you Google “kidnapped Coptic girls,” you’ll get 1000’s of pages.
When muslims boast with pride that islam is the same everywhere, they aren’t lying. This is the only truth about islam and muslims, that I advise you never to doubt. What’s happening in Nigeria and Egypt is not only happening in every muslim’s majority country, but it’s happening in every Western country with substantial muslim populations, including America. What I’m saying here is not coming from third party information, but directly from victims. And don’t expect to hear about it from CNN, FOX, or any media. Even your Western authorities with all their law enforcement won’t be of much help. Your daughters, sisters, little girls, and even adult women will be considered collateral damage for the higher Islamic special interests prerogative. We’ll talk about that too in future postings.
No muslim kidnapper or a killer of a kafir female or male is ever prosecuted, neither in Egypt, nor in any so called Islamic country, which is completely in accordance with the Sharia law that I’ll also explain in a separate posting.
Now when muslims tell you with pride that islam is the same everywhere, whether in Nigeria, Egypt, Pakistan, or America, England, Holland, …, etc , then you know you’re in big danger, and your life is not worth much. Actually, in Islamic terminology, you’re doomed, therefore, you’re considered dead already.
Allah Akbar, The abomination of desolation
Monday May 19, 2008
NIGERIA: RESCUE OF GIRLS IGNITES ISLAMIC RAMPAGE
Six churches gutted after recovery of Christians teenagers from Muslim kidnappers.
Police recovered the two Christian girls, Mary Chikwodi Okoye, 15, and Uche Edward, 14, on May 12 after Muslims in Ningi kidnapped them three weeks ago in an attempt to expand Islam by marrying them to Muslim men. Police took the two girls, who had been under foster care, to safety in southeastern Nigeria where their biological parents live.
The kidnappers had taken the girls to Wudil town in Kano state. Following the rescue of the girls, Muslims under the auspices of the Hisbah Command, a paramilitary arm of Kano state’s Sharia Commission, responsible for enforcing Islamic law, went on a rampage on Tuesday (May 13), attacking Christians and setting fire to the churches.
The destroyed churches were the Deeper Life Bible Church, St. Mary’s Catholic Church, All Souls Anglican Church, Church of Christ in Nigeria, Redeemed Christian Church of God, and the Redeemed Peoples Mission.
Joseph Abdu, pastor of Deeper Life Bible Church, told Compass that damages to his church property in the Muslim rampage of May 13 amounted to about 13 million naira (US$112,857) – and that his congregation had shrunk to 40 people from the 130 who attended before the attack.
Abdu said the Christian foster parents of the two rescued girls, Kanayo Chukwu Osakwe and Robinson Ajolokwu Ozuagbunna, noticed the teenagers were missing three weeks ago and reported it to police and to Ningi’s Emirate Council.
“The Christian community in Ningi, having reported the matter to the police, organized a search team to search for the missing girls,” Abdu said. “Word eventually got to the search team that the girls were being held in the town of Wudil in Kano state by a Muslim leader in that town.”
The search team of Christians along with two policemen went to Wudil, only to be told that the Hisbah Command had returned the girls to Ningi to the Muslim leader of the town, the Emir of Ningi, Alhaji Muhammadu Yunusa Danyaya.
“The team returned to Ningi and confirmed that the girls were in the palace of the Muslim leader, but that they would not be released to their parents until the Emir, who was out of town, returned,” Abdu told Compass.
Kidnapping of teenage Christian girls by Muslims, the pastor said, has become a recurring practice in Ningi. Muslims have kidnapped at least 13 Christian girls in the town, Christian sources said.
“These girls are usually kidnapped, forcefully converted to Islam, and then married out to other Muslim men against the will of both the girls and their parents,” Abdu said.
Two months ago Muslims in Ningi kidnapped another Christian teenage girl, Maryann Chinenye, converted her to Islam and then married her to a Muslim man, he said.
“As I talk to you now, the girl is yet to be found by her parents,” Abdu added.
The pastor said a member of his church, Comfort Joseph, had her daughter kidnapped four years ago.
“The teenage daughter of Mrs. Joseph was converted to Islam and married to a Muslim man,” he said. “Up to this moment I am speaking to you, we have not been able to rescue this girl from these Muslims.”
Forcefully Married
Osakwe, foster father of the 15-year-old Okoye, told Compass that the teenage Christians were initially taken to the house of a Muslim leader in Wudil in Kano state, Alhaji Umaru Maibishi.
“But this Muslim man, on learning that we were on our way to his house, sent the two girls back to the Emir of Ningi, Alhaji Muhammadu Yunusa Danyaya,” Osakwe said.
When he and members of the search team eventually met with the Emir, Osakwe said, he told them that the girls had converted to Islam.
“We rejected this explanation and insisted that our daughters be returned to us, but the Muslim leaders refused to do so,” Osakwe told Compass. “The police, on sensing that there was tension in the town over the matter, evacuated the girls to Bauchi town, where they were eventually rescued and taken to eastern Nigeria to be reunited with their biological parents.”
Osakwe identified a Muslim leader in Ningi town, Alhaji Bala Gambo, as the mastermind behind area kidnappings of teenage Christian girls. Gambo is one of the members of the Ningi Emir’s council of advisors.
The attack on Christians last Tuesday (May 13), Osakwe said, left him financially devastated as Ningi Muslims looted or destroyed goods worth over 50 million naira (US$434,065) in his shops.
Muslim leaders – Emir Danyaya and Gambo in Ningi, and the Muslim leader at Wudil in Kano, Maibishi – declined to speak to Compass about the kidnappings and attacks.
‘Sharia Protection’
Robinson Ajolokwu Ozuegbunna, foster father of the rescued 14-year-old Edward and a member of the All Souls Anglican Church, confirmed Osakwe’s account of the kidnappings and the attack on Christians in Ningi town.
A resident of Ningi for 22 years, he told Compass that he had “lost everything” in the attack.
Osakwe and Ozuegbunna felt fortunate that their foster daughters were rescued in spite of losing their properties in the rampage, but Stephen Nweke and Comfort Joseph continued to wait anxiously. Bummi Joseph, 16, was kidnapped in 2004.
Her mother told Compass that police have not been able to rescue her from the Muslims who abducted her.
“I learned that she was forcefully married to a Muslim man and that she has given birth to two children,” Joseph said.
She said Gambo was responsible for the kidnapping of her daughter.
“Alhaji Gambo boasted before us when we went to the Emir’s palace that he did it, and that we cannot do anything to him,” she told Compass. “The man has protection from the sharia courts.”
Nweke, a member of the St. Mary’s Catholic Church in Ningi, said his foster daughter, Maryann Chinenye Chiazo, 16, was kidnapped in November 2007 and has remained in Muslim captivity.
“I reported her abduction to the police and the Emirate Council here in Ningi, but eventually the Sharia Commission here in Bauchi State said she was now a Muslim and is under their custody,” Nweke told Compass.
Nweke also accused Gambo of being behind the kidnapping of the Christian girls. Though he is in danger from Muslim agitators, he vowed that he would not leave Ningi until his foster daughter is rescued and released to him.
“I can’t leave this town without my daughter, even if they would kill me – I prefer to be killed than leave without her,” he said with tears. He pleaded that the Nigerian government “help me get my daughter back.”
Arabs and muslims should mourn, not only one nakba, but nakabat (plural of nakba).
Most importantly, the nakba of being the most backward, illiterate, destitute, bankrupted and hungry countries for not being able to feed themselves and keep living on the charitable generosity of the West. Like parasites living on the blood and efforts of the Western taxpayers, men and women. And since Arab-muslims love to call Western women whores, then, we should call arab-muslims the pimps of the Western world, since they live on the money of whores. Which is another legacy of their prophet, he was a pimp too, it’s recorded in their “very” holy Koran.
Then there is the Nakba of their decaying educational system that consist of hate brainwashing towards non muslims which they call it Islamic studies, and their health system that leaves no one healthy. No wonder that their leaders and rich people come to the West to treat themselves, in the full sense of the word.
Then the Nakba of keeping the world busy with their hijab and how much if should cover their pingouins, and how a muslim apostate should be killed, and how “lightly” they should beat their women, and whether it’s lawful for a muslim to befriend Jews and Christians and greet them or wish them well, while the rest of the world reached and explored the stars.
Then the Nakba of a tiny country like Israel that made the desert, and the minds of its people bloom to advance the world scientifically, medically, and technologically, striving with the civilized world to better the life of every human being, while arab-muslims turned their brains into a desert where nothing blooms, except hate, terror, and spreading desolation. Stunning the world with their technological breakthrough by driving planes into buildings, and using their doctor’s explosive techniques to relieve people from their lives all together.
And the Nakba of all nakbas, is using their nakbas as their best business opportunity to extort the rest of the world, following the legacy of their role model, mohammad , by looting people and subduing them till they pay the Jeziah, to insure their bread and butter. Which they’ve been doing in the last 1400 years.
I can summarize this in just one sentence: for muslims, the mother of all their nakbas is simply being muslims, repeating their hallucination that of being, “The best people ever produced on the face of this Earth,” just because a thug, caravan robber, abductor and rapist of women told them so.
The Irony of all ironies is when they strive and boast to convince us that their nakba (catastrophe) system, islam, is the best solution for our civilized societies, while they’re screaming and pleading to be rescued from being buried under their own misery and destitution.
I read an interview in an Egyptian newspaper with a group of young university graduate people that were planning to get into a smuggler boat to flee to Europe.
The interviewer told them: you know that according to the facts, at least 50% dies from drowning on these shaky boats. They didn’t hesitate a second to tell him, 50% chance to die is much better than 1oo% if we stay here. The same applies on most muslim countries. This is their real nakba. The nakba of their own people preferring to flee their countries and risk death, then stay and be dead.
What they do when they succeed and sneak into the West is another story,
Their nakba is not the stateless Palestinians. Let’s not forget that all the arabs refused the UN partition, giving the Palestinians 50% of the whole land of Israel in 1948, but they couldn’t admit that Israelis should live on a portion of their own Jewish ancestral land, but be thrown to the sea.
Their nakba is not for a piece of land, but for failing to kill every Jew, yet
Their true nakba is simply the existence and success of Israel, period . The success of Israel is the biggest shame that highlight their failure.
If the Israelis give the Palestinians all the land they want, and offer them unconditional peace, accepting all their terms, what will they do with this?
Sahih Muslim, Book 41: Number 6985:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.
And this:
Koran 7:167, Behold! Thy Lord did declare that He would send against them (the Jews), to the Day of Judgment, those who would afflict them with grievous penalty. Thy Lord is quick in retribution, but He is also Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
In ibn Katheer (full Arabic) interpretation it is said that Mohammad, and his Umma (Islamic nation) will afflict the Jews until Judgment Day. Then the Muslims will kill the Jews, just before the end of this world, Allah said. [English abridged interpretation here]
The question to every muslim and all the Islamic authorities is: would you accept peace with Israel and make the word of mohammad and allah absolete?
When the Islamic authorities of the world give us the answer on this, then we’ll find out what arabs and muslims want, and what they consider to be a nakba.
Personally I doubt it, for two reasons. First, the hate embedded in the heart of muslims towards the Jews (and Christians) by mohammad and his koran, is stronger than the love of their well being and the well being of their children, Golda Meyer said this, and I totally agree with her. Not because she said it, but because I know the muslims mentality, and I don’t doubt she knew it too.
Second, if they make mohammad’s saying, and the word of allah absolete, that would be the last nail in the coffin of islam. They know it, and no Islamic authority or Islamic government would commit their own Hara-Kiri. Beside, islam is the religion of revenge, not of peace and compromise, but to kill and get killed. And don’t forget, these texts were written 1400 years before the creation of the state of Israel.
When you’ll perfectly understand islam and muslims, you’ll understand that in reality what they consider their biggest nakba, is not their backwardness, destitution, and misery. They know, all this is of their own making, it’s part of their Islamic DNA system wherever they go. But the biggest nakba for them is their rage, for failing till now to drag the Western world with them to the abyss.
All their struggle, in other words, their Jihad, is to make their nakba our nakba, Same as they turned every country they dominated into a nakba.
That makes their “nakba” synonymous with islam, and Sharia law, which I assume you understood, once you knew that the translation of nakba is catastrophe.
With all the billions, if not trillions of dollars Arabs spent on wars against Israel, and what Saudi Arabia and the rich Gulf countries spent to finance terror all over the world, building thousands of mosques to subvert Western countries, and the more billions they’re still spending right now as we speak to keep financing the spread of terror in the West and the world (terrorism is not free), they could’ve made a millionaire out of every Palestinian. But this is not their aim, for if they do this, what other excuse they’ll have for promoting their jihad, and what other cause the gangster’s leaders of the arab world would use to distract their populations from the real issue, which is their misery and their struggle for a loaf of bread.
It is also thanks to the nakba, that oil prices reached levels that made Gulf oil countries amass the astronomical riches they have today. The least they can do is to share that wealth with their palistinians brethren. But the math wisdom requires that better be the brethren to stay down for the barrel price to be up.
If muslims considers the existence of Israel to be their own nakba, then, starting by me and all the Copts, and the majority of the free world, we consider that the real nakba is the existence of muslim’s followers of muhammad, until they purge their brains, renounce their hateful ideology, islam, and decide to live in peace with the rest of the world. Then, and only then, they’ll have no more nakba to celebrate.
From the Sons of apes and pigs, we celebrate the advancement, success, strength, and the valuable contributions of Israel to the world. And remember, there will be no peace with people that worship a book they call holy, and calls for the annihilation of Jews, not the destruction of Israel, but the murder of all Jews from the face of the earth. That's the word of allah, so they say. Untill the death of that allah, the world will have no peace.
No tears for the "Nakba" business, remember, mulims always bite the hand that feeds them, and cut the hand that wipe their tears.
An Update on our previous posting: Islam's Reality, And It's not A Show - What You See Is What Islam Have In Store For You
Are muslims residing in the West, different from their co-religionists and relatives in their native countries?
This report adds more incite to previous analysis, here, and here, about the threats and confrontation resulting from the islamic governments strategy of mosques-building in the West. Nazism was defeated in Germany, Communism was defeated, the Berlin wall was brought down, and east and west Europe found peace. Now we are confronted and threatened by "the islamic wall," that divided the world into #1 masters, and #2 slaves being erected everywhere around us. The most evil legacy of a global murderous cult, founded by the biggest thug, self proclaimed prophet. No criminal organization in history popularized the word "killing" globally, to the point of making it a universal daily cultural banality, except muslims, for which the word "killing" is by itself the resume of their culture and history.
Give any first grader muslim child in any islamic country just two words, "Death for...," and ask him to fill the dots with all what he learned. he will fill the whole page.
The most terrifying thing in Geert Wilders koran movie, was not 911, London, Madrid, or the beheadings, but the three year old girl filled with hate towards the Jews, the sons of apes and pigs. Certainely she would've said the same think about the Christian kafirs, since that's what she hears all day long, whether at school or from the mosque's loudspeakers. Let me repeat it, this is the most terrifying thing in the whole movie. And for those who don't know, this girl is the daughter of a known Egyptian actor (not a Hamas jihadist), Mohamed El Arabi. It can't get more moderate mainstream than this.
In this report you'll see how in islamic majority countries, the majority of muslims (which by the way includes the moderate mainstream) feel no mea culpa to intimidate, oppress, persecute, humiliate, and kill Christians (who are the native people of the country). That includes looting their homes, and businesses, destroying their churches and properties, kidnaping and raping their baby girls and women. To emulate and keep up with their thug prophet tradition, that was, and still is the only motivation to attack people under the beard of a "religion."
Now think of this, all muslim immigrants in the West are the products of this culture, or rather this criminal culture, which by comparison makes a bacteria culture more appealing and safer.
In other words, these muslims that came to the West from islamic majority countries were also part, whether active or passive, of the mainstream majority oppressors, intimidators, persecutors, destroyers, looters, rapists, and killers. It's no coincidence that all sorts of criminality starting by rape, increases in the West wherever there is muslims concentrations. The high percentage of muslims in western jails, in comparison to their total population percentage speaks for itself.
The majority of these muslims that came to West, are, not only filled with the same thuggish and criminal teaching which is the legacy of their thug prophet that was sent " Mercy to the Worlds," but actually proud of it and boast about it.
The proofs are very easy to demonstrate:
Ask every muslim you meet, what he thinks of koran 9:29, which states that non muslims should convert, pay the jeziah and be humiliated, or be killed, and let us know the percentage of muslims that disapprove it. If he gives you the classic 3:28 deception of, "this verse was for war time" answer, ask him, where he sees the talk of war in the verse. And when he tells you the jeziah was a tax, like in any country, ask him if he is humiliated, and hit on the back head by the IRS when he pays his taxes in America or in any western country. But even when he acts muslim, as usual, like a soap bubble hard to catch, you got your proof of his pride, and the thuggish teaching embedded in him. He would even be making a silent prayer while talking to you, asking allah for the day to come when he can apply that verse on you.
Another proof, All these muslims in the West that are shouting, jumping up and down, screaming and defending the rights of "Their" muslim Palestinian brothers, that are supposedly being oppressed by the Israelis. Did you ever hear them addressing their relatives, brothers and sisters in the islamic countries to stop their criminal behavior towards the native Christian citizens, and to treat them equally? Even their activism on behalf of "Their" Palestinian brothers, exclude the Christian Palestinians that are being ethnically cleansed by none other than the muslim Palestinians, which resulted in an exodus of the Christian Palestinians to the West.
Did you hear muslims in the West being outraged when their palestinian brothers bombed churches, the YMCA, and the Christian library in Gaza and killing the Christians in charge? Were muslims in the West outraged by the bombing of churches, killing of bishops and priests in Iraq? Did we ever hear Egyptian muslims in the West outrage for the atrocities committed by their Egyptian relatives to the Christians of Egypt? Did you see muslims in the West being outraged, or ashamed for any criminality caused by "Their" muslim brothers and sisters, period?
I can cite many other proofs, but that's already plenty to demonstrate that muslims in the West, don't have a different mindset than the thuggish mindset of their co-religionists relatives in their countries of origin. Or let's put it this way, muslims in the West that takes pride in the thug that elevated killing, raping, and hate to the level of religion, has themselves demonstrated that no proofs are necessary. Simply put, their pride is in their shame.
In our Arabic Islamic debate forums, which are the biggest forums on Paltalk.com, with an audience capacity of thousands of people, we have the opportunity of debating, non stop, arab muslims from all over the world. The shocking reality is, the biggest majority of the ones residing in the West are the most radical, most threatening, and all the ones that were arrested for terrorism on Paltalk were residing in the West.
The purpose of saying this, and this report, is not meant to make you cry on the fate of the Christians, whether in Egypt, or in every muslims dominated country, but to spare you the same fate.
One last question, but that’s for you to meditate on, and answer it for yourself after reading the report. Do you think the oppressed and massacred Christians in muslims dominated countries have the luxury of accusing their oppressors and murderers of being islamists, or ask if the moderates mainstream exist, and where are they, or count on their support to gain equal rights, or even to stop the stream of daily insults? Again, this is not meant to get you out of your way for the persecuted Christians, but it's meant to let you know the real deal islam have in store for you.
My journey through Egypt
Sent by Jesse Petrilla, founder of United American Committee
I have recently returned to the United States from Egypt where I was on a fact-finding mission to see what life is like for non-Muslims who live under Islam. What I saw was a dire situation of oppression and discrimination that many in America and the West have all but ignored. A place with rampant police brutality and corruption, where non-Muslims are second-class citizens at best, who are brutally victimized on a daily basis. All this in a nation which is a popular U.S. tourist spot, and has been the recipient of American aid in excess of $28 billion in the last three decades[1]. I wanted to learn what life would be like if our enemies and their allies got their way. What I saw was an example of the harsh life in store for future American generations in Islamic-dominated regions of the U.S. if we do not work to bring attention to the issue of Islamic oppression now at this critical time in American history.
My journey began on an EgyptAir flight out of JFK. I was a bit surprised, to say the least, when the in-flight video came on prior to departure and instead of the usual safety video, a picture of a mosque flickered on and a deep-toned recorded voice came on reciting Islamic prayers out of the Koran. I've flown on Israeli airline El Al a number of times as well as hundreds of other global and U.S. airline companies, and I have never experienced a Christian prayer or a Jewish prayer on a flight, and could only imagine the reaction of Americans if an airline carrier were to try. Regardless of the policies and logic of other airlines, apparently a Muslim owned airline feels it fit to assume that all its passengers desire to hear a Muslim prayer, regardless of their faith. The safety video followed and my journey had begun; I was on my way to Cairo and Alexandria to get a feeling of what life was like there for non-Muslims.
The first day, I visited old Cairo. Walking through the alleyways, I visited the many ancient churches there. As I rounded a corner I came upon an old synagogue. Excited to find and learn the experiences of Jews who live there, I entered only to be greatly disappointed and utterly disgusted when I saw the synagogue was filled with hijab-clad Muslim women selling trinkets and postcards inside. It's a museum that I can only assume the government uses to show their "tolerance". I overheard the tour guides speaking of how there "were once Jews here," and I was told that there is only one other synagogue in the city. It makes you wonder if someday there will be regions of America with a museum of the last or second to last synagogue or church. Irritatingly, the Egyptian police refuse to allow anyone to take any photos or video at all of the synagogue either inside or out, and they threatened to take my camera if I questioned their rule.
As I continued through the streets, the afternoon call to prayer began to broadcast from a local mosque, then another mosque, then a third, until the deafening sound of thousands of loudspeakers from mosques all over the city pierced through the air with the call of “Allah akbar” followed by Koranic verses. I recalled how in several American cities including Dearborn, Michigan, sound ordinances have begun to be overturned to allow this to occur in America. I made my way to meet with a friend who is an activist for human rights in Egypt. He showed me the Egyptian constitution which in article II states that Sharia (Islamic) law shall be “the principal source of legislation”[2]. This clause goes for everyone in the nation regardless of faith. My friend told me the stories and showed me photos of young Christian girls who had been kidnapped and forced to convert to Islam, and threatened with death, and their families threatened if they ever convert back. After several days in Cairo, my journey continued to Alexandria where I would visit several churches which had been attacked in recent years.
On the train to Alexandria, we passed through rural villages where I noticed vast amounts of hay on the roofs of many village homes; Our guide told us that the livestock sleep in the house with the people at night, Jokingly I asked if the women sleep out in the stable, but I didn’t receive a definitive answer on that one. It was about this time that I realized the majority of the men everywhere I went had a small round bruise on their forehead reminiscent of something out of the book of Revelation. My guide told me that it was from hitting their head on the floor when praying; He also told me that in Egypt specifically, and perhaps elsewhere, some men heat up a metal spoon in a fire and stick it on their forehead to accentuate the bruise, it seems you aren’t cool unless you have the mark. As we stepped off the train in Alexandria, a police officer approached and told my Egyptian Coptic friend that he did not have a license to be my guide, desiring a bribe before he would leave us alone. This had not been the first time in the trip that a cop came up looking for money. It seemed every time I took out my camera, a police officer would show up to tell me I couldn’t take any pictures and would have to pay him a nominal fine. Usually the officer would not be looking for a bribe of more than ten or twenty dollars, and thankfully our guide was able to talk officers out of it the majority of the time. We went to a local hotel where I turned on the television to see the Statue of Liberty in flames; Disgusted, I changed the channel only to see a video clip of a small child crying with her arms in the air, spliced in with images of U.S. soldiers. The video cut to a bleeding boy lying on the ground in obvious anti-American propaganda, yet to the right of the boy you could see a U.S. medic helping the injured child, no doubt hurt by Jihadist terrorists, but you certainly wouldn’t know that from the tone of the video.
Our first stop in Alexandria was the Church of St. George, the site of a brutal attack in 2005 where a Muslim in his early 20s entered as a prayer service was finishing. He shouted "Allah akbar" and stabbed a nun in the chest with a knife. Several days after the stabbing, an angry Muslim mob also attacked the church, brandishing sticks and throwing rocks at the Christians. Numerous cars and Christian-owned businesses in the area were torched, and in the end, three people were dead from the violence, all of it being sparked by unsubstantiated reports about a theatrical production that occurred at the church which was rumored to have offended Islam. I attended a prayer service there, and every 15 seconds over loudspeakers aimed at the church from the mosque next door, the Muslims were yelling at the Christians. “Allah akbar! Allah akbar!” they would yell among other things in an attempt to disrupt the prayer. This was entirely outside of the five daily calls to prayer which come over the same loudspeaker. It was intimidation designed entirely to disrupt Christian prayer, and stopped as soon as everyone left after the service was over. I took a short video of the incident, and posted it on YouTube.
My next stop was the Church of All Saints. When I arrived, I saw a large mosque directly across the street and another on the other block. This was the same case with the previous church I had visited, and my guide explained that as soon as they built the church, mosques went up all around it. Yet today it has become nearly impossible to get a permit in the country to construct a new church anywhere. The Church of All Saints was another site of an attack which occurred in 2006 where a Jihadist entered and began stabbing church-goers while yelling the familiar phrase "Allah akbar". In all, he attacked three churches that day, critically wounding many and killing a 78-year-old man. Yet the government dismissed him as only an isolated mentally ill madman.
I met with many people during my trip, and I learned a great deal about what it is like to live as a minority under Islam. I spoke with a priest who told me how he can see the younger generation of Christians there becoming more and more Islamized. I spoke with a man who told me how his young Christian children are taught in public schools there that they are going to hell if they do not become Muslims. I saw brutal intimidation and oppression, and a life dictated by Islamic law that many Americans don’t realize but are slowly beginning to see. Before we left, our guide showed us his ID card which had a glaring number 2 in the corner. He told me that Christians are required to have that number on their IDs. I asked if Muslims were required to have a number as well. “Yes,” he responded. “Number 1.”
[1] http://www.usaid.gov/our_work/features/egypt
[2] http://www.egypt.gov.eg/english/laws/Constitution/chp_one/part_one.asp
1400 years ago, The Christian Copts, were the majority native populations of Egypt. Actually, the name "Egypt" is a derivative from the name "Copt" (you can research it on Google). In other words, it's the Copts that gave Egypt its name.
Then, few thousand killer thugs, hungry, bare footed, covered with rags, came unprovoked from arabia, not with korans and interpreters to preach a religion, but with swords and spears, to kill, delight in blood, rape, abduct and send thousands of young girls and women to arabia as sex slaves, The Copts lost their country, and the thugs became the masters.
A repetetion of this happened in most countries where muslims are majority today. This is what they call, "Islam fights only to defend itself."
Islam doesn't have to be a majority to turn you to a second class citizen in your own country and dominate you. Same as a gang of few members can dominate a whole city.
This is already happening in some western cities and neighborhoods whith muslim concentrations, considered now to be no go zones, and natives living as second class citizens.
This short clip is the real deal that islam have in store for you, to expose all the sweet talk about the peaceful co-habitation that muslims in the West simulate.
With all the economic disaster, and misery brought by islam in Egypt, it still doesn't prevent muslims to surround every Church by at least four mosques to terrorize Christians during their prayers.
The persecution of Copts in their own country (thanks to Paula who sent it in).
From: United American Committee
Subject: Just returned from Egypt
A message from United American Committee founder Jesse Petrilla:
I have just returned from Egypt on a fact finding mission to learn what life is like for non-Muslims under Islam. We also grabbed some great footage to eventually use in the film the UAC is producing under the working title "An Inconvenient Religion". I will write a full after action report of my trip to publish in the next few days, but in the meantime you can view a short clip of one of my experiences in Alexandria of Islamic intimidation of Christians.
Muslim intimidation of Christian church
The Jihad for The Sake of Bread
Egypt, the land of the greatest civilization that gave the world the wonders of the Pyramids and the Library of Alexandria, that has been known to be the light of the world. Once It was swept by fundamental islam, expelled the Jewish population, oppressed and keep persecuting the native descendants of ancient Egyptians, the Copts (both Jewish and Copts that made Egypt the most thriving, economically and culturally in the Middle-East). Became the motherland of the Muslims Brotherhood, that exported to the world the phylosophy of islamic terror through its satellites accross the globe which gave birth to Al Qaeda and companies. Now egypt is hungry, and a time bomb that could explode with repercusions felt all over the Western world.
Muslims wants to boycot Dutch and Danish products. Now they kill for a piece of bread
Egypt, the biggest country in the arab world, has been experiencing the gravest situation of it's modern history since the begining of the year, shortage of subsidized bread that is the main food item for at least 60% of the population.
The economic situation in Egypt has been going from worse to catastrophic. We have been pedicting that, for the last year, warning that the islamic radicalization would lead the country to a total bankruptcy and turmoil.
Islam is ruining the country, Besides the billions (disguised Jeziah) the US is giving Egypt, Al Azhar islamic institutions is in command of an open budget that exceeds $10 billion for building mosques, paying sheiks'salaries, sending Da'wah (missionaries) that are experts in bomb making all over the world. While the infrastructure, school, universities, medical services, hos[itals, transportation, water supply, sewer systems, roads, are falling into disaray, with the highest unemployment rate in the world, 60% of a population below the age of 30
Al Azhar declared: If you die in the line of bread, you're a Shahid
Now, and for the last three months Egyptians have to stand in line and fight to buy bread, which caused the death of seveteen people up to now. The funny thing in that misery, Al Azhar issued a fatwa, stating that whoever gets killed in the bread line would be considered a martyr (Shahid). The jihad for the sake of bread. What a consolation for hungry and miserable people. Islam always have the solution. If islam brings you misery, hunger and death, islam won't leave you depart empty handed, you're a Shahid, and you will get those 72 virgin whores, and all the Kentucky fried chicken (with no bird flew) you can eat, without the need for viagra. That beats "les biscuits" Marie Antoinette suggested for the hungry people during the French revolution.
The situation is desintegrating rapidly, with a government in total paralysis and corruption, under a ruthless dictator (Mubarak), and the harshest living conditions ever for the majoroty of Egyptians. Worth noting that if islam is the result of this catastrophic backwardness, corruption, and disintegration, it could lead to more radicalization and benefit the fundamentalist factions such as the "Muslim Brotherhood, that promote the slogan, "Islam is the solution."
Egypt's shortage of bread
The signs of revolt and civil unrest is looming with the start of tomorrow's general strike in defiance of Mubarak and the government
Egypt warns its citizens against general strike
Says it will take firm action against participants
CAIRO (AFP) Saturday, 05 April 2008
The Egyptian interior ministry warned on Saturday that it will take firm action against anyone protesting or striking, in response to calls for a general strike the following day.
"The ministry warns that, according to the law and for the protection and interest of the public, the stability, security and peace of citizens, its services will take immediate and firm measures against any attempt to demonstrate, disrupt road traffic or the running of public establishments and against all attempts to incite such acts," a statement said.
A call for a general strike on Sunday has been circulating for more than a week on the Internet, via text messages and on the social networking site Facebook.
It is unclear who initiated the call which snowballed after some 25,000 employees at a textile plant in the central city of Mahalla announced plans to go on strike from Sunday over low salaries and price hikes.
The interior ministry accused "provocateurs and illegal movements" of having "spread false rumors and called for protests, demonstrations and a strike on Sunday."
It stressed that it will be business as usual on Sunday at all public institutions, including schools and state-owned factories.
Sky-rocketing food prices in Egypt since the start of the year have been matched in recent weeks by a rumbling wave of popular discontent and unprecedented strikes and demonstrations.
Like every satanic cult, Islam needs human sacrifices. If Western populations don't react to stop it and crush it, the map of the Western countries will be flooded by the color red, not of roses, but of the bloodshed of the thirsty demon of Islam.
by Azam Kamguian
Anyone who wants to understand Islam must change his way of thinking. Islam is not a religion for the mind, soul and heart of a man, but it presents an all-encompassing set of orders, theocentric society where all facets of life - child rearing, family life, economics, and politics - are focused on Allah. There is no separation between throne and altar, between politics and religion. In fact, mosques are the starting point for demonstrations and political upheaval. Friday sermons are not confined to the fostering of faith and spiritual life, but contain strong appeals to stir up the people for political conflicts, cursing Christians and Jews, calling for the death of whole western countries in the name of Allah. The ultimate aim is nothing less than the establishment of Allah's kingdom on our earth.
What I am going to talk about is Islam; contemporary Islam in Iran. I will describe some episodes of Islamic carnage and pass you briefly through what happened and is still happening in Iran. I will talk about those who have nurtured Islamic movements or have tried to justify Islam. I will conclude by emphasizing the urgency of achieving the victory of humanity over Islam and the practical steps that should be taken to achieve this.
The final decades of the 20th century witnessed another Holocaust - an Islamic one, in which millions have been and continue to be shot, decapitated and stoned to death; in which people have been slaughtered and displaced by Islamic states, political Islamic movements and Islamic terrorists in Iran, the Sudan, Afghanistan, Algeria, Egypt, Nigeria, Central Asia, and now in America. The robe, turban and Koran continue to victimize people. Any voice of dissent or freedom has been silenced on the spot. The oppression maintained by Islamic movements primarily takes the form of opposition to the freedom of women, by crushing women's civil liberties, by curtailing freedom of expression in the cultural and personal domains, by enforcing brutal laws and traditions, and by the mass killing of people from young children to the elderly.
Essentially, Islam is a set of beliefs and rules that militates against human prosperity, happiness, welfare, freedom, equality and knowledge. Islam and a full human life are contradictory concepts, opposed to each other. Islam under any kind of interpretation is and always has been a strong force against secularism, modernism, egalitarianism and women's rights. Political Islam, however, is a political movement that has come to the fore front against secular and progressive movements for liberation, and against cultural and intellectual advances. Violence and disregard for human dignity are inherent in the manifestos of political Islamic groups.
The very statement that an Islamic republic exists somewhere means that brutal violence exists within it.
After political Islam took power in Iran, creating an Islamic Republic, this movement came out of the margins in other Middle Eastern countries. It was in Iran that political Islam first organized itself into a government and thus turned into a considerable force in the region. In Iran, under an Islamic state, violence has had another dimension: one that is based on Islam. The very statement that an Islamic Republic exists somewhere means that brutal violence exists in it. The mere fact that people are forced to abide by laws based on something some god is believed to have said somewhere, or that some prophet said, itself represents a form of violence. If anyone protests against such laws, they are subject to punishment and suppression. Islam means the worst and the most ferocious kind of violence. Iran is the most transparent picture of what Islam is capable of. I will try to pass you briefly through this period of violence, atrocities, and misogyny - a bloodbath committed by Islam in power.
In Iran, I lived through thousands of days when Islam shed blood. Since 1979, a hundred thousand men, women and children have been executed in the name of Allah. I have lived through days when I, along with thousands of men and women throughout the country, looked for the names of our lovers, husbands, wives, friends, daughters, sons, colleagues and students in newspapers which daily announced the names of the executed. Days when the soldiers of Allah attacked bookstores and publishing houses and burned books. Days of armed attacks on universities, killing students all over the country. Weeks and months of bloody attacks on workers' strikes and demonstrations. Years of assassination of opponents inside and outside Iran. Years of suppression and brutal murder of atheists, freethinkers, socialists, trade union leaders and activists, Marxists, Bahais, women who resisted the misery of the hijab and the rule of sexual apartheid, and many others who were none of these, who were arrested in the streets and then executed simply because of their innocent non-Islamic appearance. And to the hundred thousand murdered in Iran must be added the millions who have died in Algeria, the Sudan, Egypt, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. A silent holocaust about which the civilized world does nothing.
I, along with thousands of political prisoners, was tortured by order of the representative of Allah and Sharia; tortured, while the verses of the Koran about nonbelievers were played in the torture chambers. The voice reading the Koran was mixed with our cries of pain from lashes and other brutal forms of torture. They raped women political prisoners for the sake of Allah and in expectation of his reward. They prayed before raping them. Thousands were shot to death by execution squads while Koranic verses were recited. Prisoners were awakened every day at dawn to the sound of gunshots aimed at their friends and cell mates. From the numbers of shots you could work out how many had been murdered that day. The killing machine did not stop for a minute. The fathers and mothers, husbands and wives who received the bloody clothes of their loved ones had to pay for the bullets. They created an Islamic Auschwitz. Many of the best, the most passionate and progressive people were massacred. The dimensions of the horror are beyond imagining.
From that time, love, happiness, smiling, any free human interaction was forbidden. Islam took over completely. This is what happened to my generation. But it was not limited only to my generation, It had bloody consequences for our parents generation and for the next generation. During those years, millions of children were brainwashed and manipulated. The crimes committed by the Islamic Republic of Iran and political Islam in the region are comparable to the crimes committed by Fascism in the 1930s and early 1940s, and to the genocide in Rwanda and Indonesia.
Yet these are events that humanity around the world has been largely unaware of. A Holocaust which, if humanity knows of its dimensions and intensity, would certainly cause it to weep. With the downfall of such regimes, the world will be given an opportunity to know the truth - victims will speak out, prisons and torture chambers will be exposed, torturers will make heart-wrenching confessions, Islamic prosecutors and judges will reveal what they did to their victims behind prison walls. Then people all over the world will see what a despicable, and horribly unimaginable (for whoever not knowing Islam) phenomenon Islam is. They will finally find out the truth about those governments that backed the Islamic movements and the Western mainstream (accomplice) media that deliberately blocked people's access to the truth.
The aftermath of September 11 exposed a fraction of the reality of what is happening to people living under the constant terror of Islam. It exposed something of the tragedy that befell women under the Taliban. It revealed, to some extent, the true substance of Islam. But it became plain to see that this carnage is Islamic. It became evident that it is all about Islam.
When I came to the West in the beginning of the 1990s, I was faced by the fact that the majority of intellectuals, the mainstream media, the academic world, and many feminists, in the name of respecting other cultures and religions, were trying to justify Islam by dividing it into fundamentalist and moderate, progressive and reactionary, Medina's and Mecca's, folksy and non-folksy, poisonous and edible. For people like me, first-hand victims of the Islamic Holocaust, it was suffocating to listen to and to have to refute endless tales to justify this terror, atrocity and misogyny. Parallel to this Islamic carnage, western apologists for Islam try to divert people's righteous loathing for Islam and for the political Islamic movement, to limit it to a hatred of fundamentalism. They attempt to reduce the anti-Islamic struggle to anti-fundamentalism. They keep telling us that what we loathe is fundamentalism, not the 'true', the 'real' Islam. They pledge "reform in Islam" and the application of a "positive interpretation of the Koran" to women's rights by linguistic twisting. They raise the idea of Islamic feminism and try to attach a human face to the monstrous face of Islam against women.
The rights of freedom of expression, equality of men and women, and a secular state apply to people in the 'Third World' too. Isn't it shameful that we have to argue about it?
The truth should be spoken. We shouldn't let western apologists for Islam play with people's lives, and mislead their own populations any more. We should say clearly and loudly that it is all about Islam. What we have seen is the reality of Islam in power. The fact is that Western liberal and left-wing intellectuals feel guilty about past colonial history and are apologetic to the Third World. They consider the "Third World" a given entity, where people are keen to suffer under the rotten rules of Islam, where people are happy to be deprived of the achievements of human civilization in the 21st century. According to them, women desire sexual apartheid, girls love to be segregated from boys, and people hate civil rights and individual freedom. In their view, people are the allies of Islamic movements and Islamic governments. This is indeed a distorted image of the realities. This is an inverted colonialism. In this picture, people who are fighting for civil rights, secularism and against political Islam do not exist. This self-centered mentality in which everything should revolve around the guilt of Western pseudo-intellectuals is appalling. The rights of freedom of expression, equality of men and women, and a secular state apply to people in the "Third World" too. Isn't it shameful that we have to argue about it?
Contrary to this view, there is a fight going on - and it has been going on for over 28 years - between progressive movements in the Middle East and in the West on the one side, and political Islam on the other. The records of the daily struggle of people and the non-Islamic opposition in Islam-ridden countries, and the news of the daily resistance of the youth and women in Iran, demonstrate the reality of peoples' demands in the "Third World". Since 1979, Iranian society has changed dramatically and deeply. The movement for secularism and atheism, for modern ideas and culture, for individual freedom, for women's liberation and civil liberties has been widespread and deep. Disgust for Islam and the backward culture of those in power is immense.
Secularism must be defended actively and resolutely in Islam - ridden countries. Universal human and civil rights must be the standard. Secularism is not only realizable, but also, after the experiences of Iran, Afghanistan, the Sudan, Egypt and Algeria, is an urgent and pressing need and demand of the people of the region. The demand for secularism must push for absolute and complete separation of religion from the State; complete separation of religion from education; freedom of religion and atheism; laws free of religious content; and for religion to be declared the private affair of individuals. A conscious struggle must be conducted against the power of organised religion. Islam should be officially registered as a private enterprise, subject to regulations and laws.
To realize these ideals and demands, we need a massive joint force. Despite the struggles of the non-Islamic opposition in the Middle East and in the West in the past decades, all that has been visible has been occasional reports of the barbarity of Islam and the reactions of Western governments, media and "intellectual" apologists deceiver for Islam. But, there is a third force, a sleeping giant who can turn the situation around. If this giant awakes, this era could see the beginning of positive changes and the realization of ideals that were almost abandoned during the final decades of the 20th century. Humanity must rise up and defend itself against the barbarity of Islam.
The ranks of civilised humanity form a massive force that has, so far, sadly been silenced. It can come to the fore. For the future of humanity, it must come to the fore. If there is to be a future, it is in the formation of an active, progressive and freedom-loving policy at the forefront of the ranks of the people. Otherwise, the stage is left open to Islam terrorism and barbarism. I finish this with the hope that in the coming years of the 21st century, we will witness the victory of humanity, of humanism, over Islam. All freedom-lovers and secularist forces around the world should come together in a joint effort to combat Islam; to promote secularism, egalitarianism and freedom, in the societies that Islam oppresses.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, these videos are worth more than a PhD. in Islamic studies.
The world is holding its breath for Geert Wilders' koran movie, but these videos are no less effective in showing the applications, and the live realities resulting from the koran.
These are videos that the Egyptian government don't want the world to see. It shows the organized and official systematic persecution, terrorizing, and economic strangulation of the Copts in Egypt, and how government security officers even threaten to rape the young daughters of mothers that converted to Christianity.
It is also worth mentioning that most of these Copts, reduced to being garbage collectors, were forced to flee their lands and businesses in upper Egypt under the threat of being killed by radical Muslims acting with the complicity of the security apparatus, to steal Christians' properties as lawful booty, same as their prophet did with the Christians and the Jews of Arabia.
It is also important to remind the world that Copts were the people that had to pay the jeziah in order to stay as Christians. Which means that all Copts, including the ones you'll see in the videos were by definition, financially well off to be able to pay, until they reached the life you will now be witness of. Now you can see what it means in the koran 33:27, "And He made you heirs of their lands, their houses, and their goods, and of a land which ye had not frequented (before). And Allah has power over all things." This is one verse you won't need anyone to explain to you once you see the videos.
In Egypt Copts are being robbed point blank, their tax money is used to finance Al Azhar university, where no Christian is admitted but Muslims from all over the world are admitted for free, to build and finance hundreds of thousands of mosques (while Christians are not free to build one church with their own money, and in many places they have to conduct the mass on the street), to finance a dozen or more Islamic TV channels, payroll for hundreds of thousands of sheiks so they can insult and curse through mosque loudspeakers and on the air, at every prayer, those same Christians paying their salaries. These are just four items out of a list that is too long to mention here.
As for Western countries, the first thing a Muslim is briefed about by his co-religionists as soon he arrives (I know this first hand from every ex-Muslim), is how to plunder the social benefits. Just compare the percentage of Muslims in your Western country with their share of the social benefits, and you'll understand that you're being robbed too of your tax dollar. Or, as Muslims call it, they're making you pay the jeziah.
Egypt; Treatment of Christians 1 of 3.
Egypt ; Treatment of Christians 2 of 3
Egypt; Treatment of Christians 3 of 3
koran 9:29, "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book."
This is a very special and sad announcement
Nothing shows more the evil of the followers of the butcher of islam than the light of the Martyrs they murder. They expose to the world more than ever, how their death cult is capable of transforming them to a lower level than savage animals, and if we let them, they would transform our world to a jungle, same as they did wherever they had the opportunity.
Kidnapped Iraq archbishop dead: Church officials
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:57am EDT
MOSUL, Iraq (Reuters) - Paulos Faraj Rahho, the Chaldean Catholic archbishop who was kidnapped in Iraq last month, has been found dead, Church officials in Rome and Baghdad said on Thursday.
It was not clear if he died as a result of his precarious health or if he was killed, Church officials in Rome said.
The Vatican said Pope Benedict was immediately informed and was "profoundly moved and saddened" by the news.
"Archbishop Rahho is dead. We found his lifeless body near Mosul. The kidnappers had buried him," Bishop Shlemon Warduni of Baghdad was quoted as telling SIR, the news agency of the Italian Bishops Conference.
The Chaldean patriarch of Baghdad, Cardinal Emmanuel III Delly, confirmed the news. "Yes, he died," he told Reuters in Baghdad.
SIR quoted Warduni as saying the kidnappers had told Iraqi church officials on Wednesday that Rahho was very ill and, later on Wednesday, that he was dead.
But police in Baghdad said the body appeared to have been dead for at least a week and had started to decompose. They said there were no
bullet wounds and were checking how he died.
The archbishop was wearing black trousers and a blue shirt.
Rahho was seized on February 29 after gunmen attacked his car in eastern Mosul, 390 km (240 miles) north of Baghdad, killing his driver and two guards.
"This morning they called us to tell us that they had buried him. Some of our young people followed the indications that the kidnappers had given to reach the site," the agency quoted Warduni as saying.
"They dug there and found the bishop lifeless. We still don't know if he died of causes linked to his precarious health or if he was killed. The kidnappers only told us that he was dead," he said.
Chaldeans belong to a branch of the Roman Catholic Church that practices an ancient Eastern rite and form the biggest Christian community in Iraq.
"All of us had continued to pray and hope for his release, which the Pope had repeatedly urged," Vatican spokesman Rev. Federico Lombardi said in a statement shortly after news of the death.
"Unfortunately the most absurd and unjustified violence continues to strike the Iraqi people and particularly the small Christian community," Lombardi said.
"Our hope is that this tragic event will underscore and reinforce everybody's commitment, and particularly that of the international community, to bring peace to this troubled country," he said.
Pope says Iraq archbishop death "inhuman violence"
VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Thursday condemned the death of the kidnapped Chaldean Catholic archbishop in Iraq as "an act of inhuman violence that offends the dignity of the human being".
The Pope made his comments in a telegram sent to Iraqi Catholic Church leaders after the discovery of the body of Paulos Faraj Rahho, who was abducted last month.
"The news of the death of Archbishop Rahho, who was kidnapped a few days ago, is a deep and painful blow to the Holy Father who was informed immediately.
Pope Benedict is "profoundly moved and saddened" by the death of Paulos Faraj Rahho, "All of us had continued to pray and hope for his release, which the Pope had repeatedly urged," Father Federico Lombardi said in a statement shortly after news of the death.
"Unfortunately the most senseless and unjustified violence continues to be inflicted on the Iraqi people, and especially on the small Christian community to which the Pope and all of us are particularly close in prayer and solidarity at this moment of great suffering.
Exclusive to sonsofapesandpigs
The secret details of the kidnappers demands, according to our contact from the church of Musol:
Two days after the kidnapping of the Archbishop, the terrorists contacted his secretary, and talked to him in a very rough and demeaning way, with lots of insults, asking for a one million dollar ransom, to be paid within 48 hours.
On March the 6th, the terrorists called again and increased the ransom to 2.5 million dollars, while refusing to give any proof of the well being of the Archbishop, and refusing demands from the church leaders to talk to him.
On top of the ransom, the kidnappers submitted three conditions for the church as a contribution to the jihad operations:
1- The church should buy advanced weapons and hide it in churches, considered to be safe hideouts, to make it available for the use of the Mujahedeen for their holy war against the Americans.
2- Provide Christian volunteers with explosives to be part of suicide operations against the American troops.
3- To pressure the Kurdish authorities to release the jailed mujahedeen under their control.
Funeral of the Archbishop's two guards and driver killed by the muslim kidnappers.
The daughter (C) of a slain guard of Chaldean Catholic archbishop of Mosul Paulos Faraj Rahho is held by her mother (R) during his funeral in a church in Mosul, 390 km (240miles) northwest of Baghdad, March 1, 2008.Gunmen kidnapped the archbishop and killed his driver and two guards on Friday, police said. REUTERS/Stringer (IRAQ)
Mourners stand around the coffin of Chaldean Catholic archbishop of Mosul Paulos Faraj Rahho's guard, killed by gunmen, during his funeral in church in Mosul, 390 km (240miles) northwest of Baghdad, March 1, 2008. Gunmen kidnapped the archbishop and killed his driver and two guards on Friday, police said.
“OUTCRY AS MUSLIM M&S WORKER REFUSES TO SELL ‘UNCLEAN’ BIBLE BOOK”
This became news all over the Western world. For anyone thinking, why we waited to go digging in old news? Our answer is: this is neither news nor old. We didn't wanted to treat it as a passing news event, or to make this miserable brainwashed muslim girl our target. But to put the issue in its right "context," we know how much muslims abhor "out of context," and serve them a dish from their own table of filth, to be le plat de resistance.
The clean and civilized world knows the Bible, it's the most read book in the world, by far. There is nothing to hide in it. It's the book that transformed savaged and barbarians to civilized human beings that reached the stars and dominated the world in every aspect of scientific and human knowledge, caused the greatest prosperity of all times, created the civilization that is superior to all others. The Judeo-Christian civilization. Otherwise, it wouldn't be the wish of every muslim to flee their miserable koranic countries to come to the West. That should be a sufficient answer. Now we will show the world the "gems" muslims have in their books, and the standard of cleanliness of their prophet and their koran. They chose the battle ground, and we tell them, we couldn't chose a better one.
We also considered the outcry of the Western media to be hypocrisy and deceiving for all western populations. This cashier didn’t do or say anything that is not in the core teaching of Islam. She merely stated what she learned in the koran. This phony media outcry about this cashier girl is pure deception, and blowing air that makes us laugh. Why the hypocrites didn't ask her where she learned that from? What about the published reports of a US congressional commission recommending to close the Islamic academy in Virginia, also financed by the same saudi thugs, and the media in England exposing the king filth islamic academy’s curriculum, teaching first graders that Christians and Jews are apes and pigs, unclean, including their Bible, straight from the koran? Why not the outcry on the source of the filth, rather than the scapegoat girl applying what she learned from it? She's the fruit of the tree, if the tree is rotten, how can she give good fruits? Actually, we can imagine how she's been praised in the privacy of their secret society, for her jihad for the sake of their Satanic allah. But she's far from being our concern, she's just the straw that we'll use to break their camel's back.
koran 9:28, "O ye who believe! Truly the polytheist (Christians, Jews, pagans) are unclean."
This is islam since 1400 years, and you are, and will still be, as we speak, unclean for islam, till you (westerners) decide it’s about time to stop being treated like filth, and rise up to gain back, and defend, what muslims already consider it to be their ultimate achieved victory: destroying your self-respect, and reducing you to the dhimmi (enslaved) status in your own countries. All that, in broad daylight, all over the news, leaving you nowhere to hide, slapping you straight in the face.
What our governments and politicians, except the very few that are not sold out to Saudis, did to stop these insults to their own populations? Nothing, if you are aware of something I don’t know, don’t be a miser and spread the good news, in case I'm not well informed. But how can they bite the Saudi's hand that feeds and replenish their bank account? No one can serve two masters. Our politicians, as Geert Wilders, may peace be upon him, said, they serve their special master. That’s why it’s called “the Master of special interest.” It brings new meaning to what was said two thousand years ago about, “The Merchants of the Temple.”
They send the troops to fight terrorists in Afghanistan, Iraq, and spend trillions of your tax dollars for the war on terror. But what they don’t tell you is, the teaching in Islamic schools, let alone the mosques, whether in America, England, or in any western country is the basic indoctrination of a terrorist. Isn’t that what's the Muslim terrorists' aim, to clean the earth from the kafers, unclean, sons of apes and pigs, the enemies of allah and his ogre prophet?
But the trillion dollars (that’s what’s costing you the tax payer) question is this: Who elected these politicians, to serve and protect, not you, but the dens producing the best crop of home grown terrorists in the comfort of your neighborhood. Let alone to infiltrate, after graduating in hate with Honors, anywhere that suites them in our open system?
The terrorist cult (islam) can’t get more sophisticated than this. What would you expect from a graduate adult, no matter what position he would hold, whether in government of private sector, after he has been brainwashed since first grade, that whoever not believing like him, in his ogre which they call “the most honorable of all prophets, the one that came to fulfill the noblest of deeds,” is an unclean son/daughter of apes and pigs, only good for the slaughter. That’s what they call "their noblest of deeds." Imagine now, their less noble ones.
We are warned daily about the threats we face from muslims practicing their “noblest” deeds on us, and nobody knows exactly how many of these demons actually exist. Our profligate government squanders billions on "homeland security", but continues to usher in muslim immigrants by the tens of thousands. There is definitely a suicidal trend afoot.
Many westerners who are more or less familiar with the now popular Koran 5:51, “Don’t take Jews and Christians as friends,“ think that’s as far as evil goes. Far from that, that’s only the commandment, that’s only showing you the color, then comes the application and implications.
Once Muslims knew that you digested their "holy" text, regardless of their classic denial’s formality, and you didn’t show any symptoms of indigestion to cause them any problems or shame, they pass to the next level of treatment. Then you become the unclean. With the same usual denial’s formality, “the out of context, you have to read it in arabic, you have to get the whole story to understand what’s apes and pigs means (that’s what the principal of the king filth academy said, see it in the video to believe it), you have to read the fifty verses before and after to understand the meaning, all religions have the same texts, you have to be an arab believer and read it in arabic, it's hard to translate for a stupid westerner kafer to understand it." If all don’t work, "then you either take it or leave it, this is freedom of religion, smash your head in the wall." They could add, "your politicians know what we do, and they get paid, for us to trash you, so go talk to them.” Denials for muslims is only meant to be the Vaseline to make it less dry and smoother to slip it into your brain. If filthy saliva could win wars, muslims would've conquered the world.
Let’s all pray, “God help us with the politicians we elected, for our enemies, we know them.”
When this cashier, called the Bible “unclean”, she didn’t only mean the Bible, but also the person buying the Bible. Since if anything is unclean, then whoever touches it couldn’t be but unclean. It’s not only limited to that woman that went to buy the bible at Marks & Spencer, but everyone in the world that reads the Bible is unclean. Including the Christians working in that store, and the Jewish owners of M & S.
That goes for the unending list that Muslims keep adding to, for the purpose of embedding in you the feeling that you’re filthy from top to bottom. So when a muslim looks at you, even with a sweet smile, you know what he sees in you. According to psychiatrists, it’s enough to repeat to you that you’re unclean, a number of times, for you to start scratching. And muslims never misses an opportunity to apply that rule.
The following nine things are essentially najis [impure, unclean] according to islamic texts:
1. Urine
2. Faeces
3. Semen
4. Dead body
5. Blood
6. Dog
7. Pig
8. Kafir [unbeliever, Christians, Jews, Atheists, and every non muslim.] That means the kaffer is equal to everything in the list.
9. The sweat of an animal who persistently eats najasat (filth)
All these muslim’s insults are meant to tame you to submission. For muslims, that’s the stealth Jihad, the prelude to a bolder action. It only confirms what we stated in “Blogging the muslim’s mind - 1”. Muslims not only don’t burden themselves with such nonsense as to be considerate not to hurt your feelings, but actually, trashing you (westerners), is the first step of a lethal strategy.
This indoctrination is not the work of “hijackers” of a religion of peace, but this filth, insults, trash (let’s call things by their real name), and slandering others, is the core of the Islamic faith. The only faith in the world built on trash and trashing others.
The fault lies with the ideology of islam; it is diabolical, occultic and those who submit to mohammad and the allah he made on his own image are submitting to his satanic deeds. So they first become oppressed under tyranny, then, they become repressed through poverty and misery, finally, when they have the first opportunity to take advantage of our freedom, liberal societies, and treating them equally with respect, they become possessed and do the satanic acts that took hold of their own prophet, that is they lie, slander, steal and kill the same people that opened their countries to welcome them, and gave them that opportunity. They don't use that opportunity to cherish that freedom, better themselves, be happy to share, be a unifying element, and contribute for the advancement of the whole country, to prosper and benefit with others. But act as dividers, insulting, subversive, excel in offending, spreading their hateful teachings that bankrupted and made them flee their destitute countries in the first place, and drain us of billions of dollars to protect our backs, and constantly look over our shoulders. The only contribution of their belief that they're so proud of, can only be seen in the doom and gloom section of the daily news.
But in all honesty, I don’t blame the muslims, it’s the slave that makes the Master. I hope western populations meditate and understand this fully.
However, we as free people, and also as Copts that never bowed down, for more than 1400 years, to the the filth of the caravan robber prophet, and the criminality of that belief, now more than ever, we will show our dear muslims where the filth originated from, free for them after, to see how comfortable they are with it, and how they like its smell.
We just have one thing to tell them: let him who has his house built, not even with glass, but with filthy straw on the sand, don’t throw other’s with stones. We have more than what it takes to deal with every insult they can imagine. Without lowering ourselves to their trash, we will just dig from their "holy" books and their "honorable" prophet, and we'll use their own measurements, to make them feel completely at home.
A dear friend of mine from Australia reminded me of what the Kennedys suggested, "Don't get mad, get even.”
With all the love I have for this dear friend, I say, we don’t get mad at wild dogs when they bark, or hyenas when they show their teeth, and we don’t want to get even, either. You don’t wish to get even with filth and trash, with people taking their noblest deeds from a mass murderer, and a thief that made his bread and butter with his sword. All what we’ll do, is merely let islam destroy and trash itself, and thanks to islam and its ogre prophet, they have what it takes from their own books, to destroy what they call “the religion of the right path,” many times over. To show our dear muslims that they were scammed, and been sold the rotten goods of “the religion of the filthy path.”
As for our friends, who keeps lamenting, mourning, and think there is nothing to do to fight that satanic cult and its trash, then you already accepted your dhimmi slave status with all the insults and what follows. If not, if you're still a free soul, value your self-respect, and refuse to be treated like filth in your own country, from people that elevated filth and insults to the rank of religion. Then join us, to wake them up, and let them see their own shame. Hopefully, they can be cured and become human. We have the facts that millions of muslims became already ex-muslims, and, not only joined the human race, but became the salt of the earth, and examples of God's beautiful creation, with no exception. No one can appreciate the light, more than those who experienced the darkness and the filth they lived through. Whatever we expose and reveal here, is out of love for muslims, to know the truth of their bandit butcher that buried them in his deadly teaching, and get out of their cemeteries to the world of the living.
Our answer to the unclean Bible will be treated in a series of postings, that's why we didn't treated it as a passing news event.
This opening salvo is to lay open the case and explain the issue we'll deal with, to be followed with a first bombshell revelation:
When we always stated that allah is satan, it was not a claim of our imagination, we never allow ourselves to claim anything regarding islam, unless we have the irrefutable proof from the mothers of their islamic sources.
FOR THE FIRST TIME TO BE REVEALED TO THE WESTERN AUDIENCE, THE INFORMATION THAT SHOULD SHAKE THE FOUNDATION OF ISLAM: THE PROOF FROM THE KORAN, THAT ALLAH AND SATAN HAVE THE SAME ATTRIBUTES, AND WE CHALLENGE EVERY MUSLIM AND ALL ISLAMIC AUTHORITIES TO REFUTE WHAT WE'LL REVEAL.
We repeat and confirm our all time promise to close this site, if any muslim can refute our information or the proofs we provide from the koran or other Islamic sources.
We too we'll blog the koran and their prophet, or rather, we we'll blog "the weapon of mass self destruction of islam and mohammad."
As one of the great giants of our modern history, that all free people should look up to, Winston Churchill said, "Never give in -- never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy."
I just have one comment in regard to that quote. islam, neither have might nor force, but filth, poison, deception, and protection by western politicians on the payroll. All this will be one day swept to the garbage of history. As it always happened.
NB: from now on, we won't use capital letters for anything related to islam, we simply believe trash and filth only deserve the lowest of the low.
What is being taught to muslims about non muslims in islamic schools.
islamic school update
Stop the NY school madrassa (The ultimate deception, they use the name of a famous Christian poet and humanist , Khalil Gobran, to open a madrassa , that would teach that Christians are unclean)
The transcript of an unpublished and a most damaging part of the debate for Islam and Muslims
Muslims needed a psychiatrist, now they have one: Dr.Wafa Sultan, Peace be upon her.
First we would like to highlight these excerpts, with our comments:
Wafa Sultan: Westerners who read the words of Muhammad “Allah has given me sustenance under the shadow of my sword” cannot imagine Muhammad's turban in the shape of a dove of peace rather than in the shape of a bomb.
Muslims must learn how to listen to the criticism of others, and maybe then they will reexamine their terrorist teachings (the Koran) in their hands.
Any belief that chops off the heads of its critics is doomed to turn into terrorism and tyranny. This has been the condition of Islam, from its inception to this day. Islam has sentenced [its critics] to prison, and whoever crosses the threshold of that prison meets his death.
Moderator: "Do you dare to say that the number of people who died in the Jewish Holocaust is even one less [than what they claim]?
Wafa Sultan: "Why do you want me to deny historical documents that confirm that the Holocaust took place?
Moderator: "From what she says, it is clear that she has no problem denying the holy books, but she is adamant about not denying historical documents."
Wafa Sultan: "Can you as a Muslim deny the massacre of the Jews of the Bani Qureyza tribe, by Muhammad and his followers?"
That's what I call slaughtering the beast, and cooking it in its own juice. Wafa Sultan takes no prisoners. And what's the connection between the Holocaust, and discussing a bandit (prophet) admission of making his bread and butter with his sword robbing caravans?
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Tal'at Rmeih: "God help me. First, Islam is too great to be harmed by the publisher of the cartoon, or by that woman who is talking over there. The truth is that everything she said is 100% false, I'm sad to say. It seems to me that the American and Zionist intelligence agencies have begun to produce people who are hostile to their own nation."
“Islam is too great to be harmed by the cartoons?” He forgot what he said few minutes earlier (for a cartoon character like him it’s no surprise, they don’t go by the rule, “if you don’t want to get mixed up, say the truth.”)
Tal'at Rmeih (few minutes earlier): “our nation – with all its people, and organizations, institutions, rulers, and subjects – is required to adopt a resolute stand of resistance and confrontation in the face of these criminal and hostile acts. The embassies of Denmark, Holland, France, and the U.S. are not more precious to us than Iraq, which has been destroyed, or Palestine.”
This is a Coded message, with language that is very well decoded, and understood by Muslim mobs to attack and burn the embassies of the countries mentioned.
“By Allah, if we issued a communiqué, signed by all the Arab and Islamic organizations and institutions, the West would bite its tongue and stop all this.
By Allah, if the Arab summit decided to boycott Denmark, they would all be disgraced.
By Allah, if the masses of the nation would gather for one hour only around the embassies of Denmark, those despicable lowlifes would be in a position of retreat, not attack."
By Allah .. By Allah .. By Allah .. Tal'at Rmeih is begging for mobs action. This is not even a coded message to send the mobs to the streets, not to issue a “communiqué,” Most of them are illiterate, emulating proudly their “honorable” prophet, they don’t read. Nor just to gather for a one happy hour around the embassies of Denmark, and the other “despicable lowlifes kaffers,” just for few shouts of, "Down with ...death for ...(fill the dots)," around a bonfire flags burning. Denmark flag also offers an extra bonus, it have a cross to trample with their feet, and burn this kaffers (cross worshipers) symbol. No, They don't sweat the small stuff. They know better than that what these coded “By Allah,” should accomplish to put those lowlifes in a “position of retreat.” After all these threats, and incitement for terror action, he's proud that “ Islam is too great to be harmed!” I'm sure after he went home, he had a bad conscience for forgetting to mention the crusaders, regardless that Wafa Sultan is not Christian.
Wafa Sultan: "Did you invite me to the show to hear hollow speeches, which have been around for 1,400 years?"
Dr. Wafa, you already diagnosed the case, it's the result of abusing camel urine overdoses for 1400 years.
Tal'at Rmeih: "I am defending the past of the Islamic nation, which was the beacon of knowledge for the entire world…"
The Islamic nation origin is Arabia. How could it be the beacon of knowledge for the entire world if no one from Arabia contributed anything to the world up to this day. I challenge the whole Islamic world to name just one person from Arabia that contributed anything to the world, and we'll close this site. The Roman civilization originated in Rome by Romans. The Egyptian civilization originated in Egypt by Egyptians. The Arab Islamic civilization, if ever there was one, should have originated in Arabia by Arabs. The facts are, until the 50's, in Arabia they were still living in tents, raising goats and camels. This guy doesn't even know the definition of civilization, which we'll discuss in a separate posting. It's amazing for people that never produced anything, plundered and destroyed great civilizations, and never came out of darkness, to claim being the light of the world.
Tal'at Rmeih: Our religion is not complete without recognition of other religions. We are the ones who have called for tolerance and respect for religions."
When I heard him saying this, I right away suspected this guy of being part of an undercover Zionist conspiracy to corrupt the purity of the koran's teaching, and impersonating a Muslim to give Islam a bad name.
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This is the translated transcript of an unpublished part to the Western world that we think is the most crucial of the shocking truth told by Wafa Sultan that exposed the criminality of Islam to the Arab-Islamic world and to the Western world. She showed its nakedness, slapped Muslims in the face with their own double standard deception, and put them in shame and rage in their own juice.
It’s the first time that Al-Jazeera doesn’t rerun a debate on their talk show “The Opposite Direction,” to delete it completely from its website, and issue a statement to express its “deepest apologies” for comments made by Wafa Sultan, which “offended Islam.”
They only failed to mention that the offensive remarks (as shown in this part of the transcript and the whole debate) made by Dr. Wafa Sultan are quotes from the Koran, which is something the whole world understood. Arab Islamic sites are saying Al-Jazeera apology is not sufficient, and calling for punishing the famous moderator and talk show host Dr. Faisal el Kassem.
The day has come when Muslims are ashamed of their Koran, and consider quoting it to be very offensive to them, which is something we always knew. We also knew that their advice to westerners to read it was just another ploy to distract them (throw them a bone), and to get Muslims out of the trap of answering embarrassing questions.<!--[if !supportLineBreakNewLine]-->
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This unpublished transcript is between 21:01 minutes and the 24:29 minutes of the original footage of the show, which we are providing. She is answering Dr. Faisal el Kassem (moderator) and Tal'at Rmeih’s accusations of the West for defaming what Islam holds sacred.
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Wafa Sultan: First, why you deny to others what you allow (make halal) to yourselves. When you blast from the minarets (loudspeakers) of your mosques, in a neighborhood with a majority of Christian residents, the Koranic verse that says, “In blasphemy (Kafers) indeed are those that say that Allah (God) is Al-Masih (Jesus) the son of Maryam.” Koran 5:17
Dr.Wafa here, served the Arab Islamic world a big blow, exposing their despicable perpetual insults and defamation of Christians, especially in Egypt, where mosques are constantly blasting this Koranic verse excrement, mainly in majority Christian neighborhoods. Their meanness goes as far as hooking the mosques’ loudspeakers on the buildings occupied by Christians for maximum effect. By saying this, Wafa Sultan stripped them naked of their false veil of virtue in front of the Western world, and exposed their lies of respecting others’ beliefs, making them look at their own evil in the mirror. This part, and the next part about the verse cursing the Jews, are, in our opinion, the most damaging to Muslims' case. First, by showing them that they are the last people on earth to criticize others. Second, because Muslims and Al-Jazeera know that this debate will spread to the world, and will expose, in those two parts, their meanness to and vilification of Christians and Jews. Then, Dr. Wafa finished them up with the knockout blow, when she cuts to the heart of the problem with surgical precision, and showed them and the world, that their religion is a death cult the world has to confront, and the cartoons are no match to the filth and incitement for killing in their own Koran. We believe it’s this particular segment that enraged the Arab-Islamic world, and forced Al-Jazeera to delete the whole thing and apologize.
Tal'at Rmeih: (interrupting nervously) I will not allow defaming the Koran.. No.. no.. discuss the issue.. talk to me about the freedom in the West…
Wafa Sultan: (firmly) Listen .. listen ..
Moderator: (interrupting) My lady .. my lady … let’s stay on the political subject ..
Tal'at Rmeih: No … no … discuss the issue … Now there is the cartoons.
(very nervous and disturbed Tal’at Rmeih, and moderator, trying to silence Wafa Sultan from quoting the Koranic verses)
Moderator: Our issue is the freedom of speech … and confronting the insults .. please.
Wafa Sultan: Listen … you gave him the time … give me the time .. let me finish my talk (very authoritative Wafa Sultan) .. ” When you broadcast (from radios and TV’s) the verse that says, “The Jews say: "Allah's hand is tied up." Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for the (blasphemy) they utter. Koran 5:64”
Tal'at Rmeih: (extremely nervous) The Koran is not our problem ..
Moderator: My lady .. my lady … our issue is the freedom of speech, and the insults … please.
Wafa Sultan: Before ... before you ask others to respect your beliefs, you have to respect their beliefs. Do you respect others beliefs when you recite and blast from the top of your mosque’s minarets these verses? Do you practice the freedom of speech? Why don’t you evaluate (criticize) these Koranic verses?
Tal'at Rmeih: (interrupting) This is freedom of (Islamic) beliefs(religion), not freedom of expression .. she’s hallucinating ..
Moderator: (to Tal’at Rmeih) Just a minute ..
Wafa Sultan: Why don’t you evaluate (criticize) these Koranic verses?
Tal'at Rmeih: (interrupting) This is the Koran, it is not subject to evaluation.. talk to us about politics ..
Wafa Sultan: You cannot evaluate your Koran. Then, the world have to evaluate it, and they must evaluate it. Why don’t you criticize these Koranic verses with the same scale you use to criticize the Danish cartoons? Taking into consideration that it’s not fair to compare between both. The Koran is the highest political and religious authority in the Islamic world, But these cartoons ..
Tal'at Rmeih: (interrupting) She’s hallucinating, she’s programmed ..
Wafa Sultan: (very firm) Let me finish my talk ..
Moderator: My lady, my lady, Dr. Wafa, our subject is the freedom of speech, and not discussing the “holy” books, I beg you, I beg you, I beg you Dr. Wafa, say what you want, but ..
Wafa Sultan: (very firmly) This is not true, you give yourself the right to adopt a religion that orders you to kill others, and you say, this is a religion don’t come close to it? There is a difference in the comparason, The Koran is the highest religious and political authority in the Islamic world, but the Danish cartoons are just a passing event in a newspaper that doesn’t represent any religious or political authority in Denmark. When you respect others beliefs, others will be obligated to respect your beliefs. Don’t ask others for what you don’t apply first on yourself.
I would like to add that we are very proud, for having Dr. Wafa Sultan, as one of the great, and closest friends to the Coptic people, that never, neither spared any effort to attend Coptic conferences, whether in America or Europe, to support their demands for equal rights with the Muslims in their native country. Nor she ever forgot, when debating Muslims, or in her writings, to expose the persecution Copts are enduring in Egypt. That's exactly what she did in this segment.
The full (47 minutes) Original (Arabic, not subtitled) live debate video footage that Al-Jazeera deleted from its Website could be downloaded from our server here.
Wafa Sultan part 1 English subtitle
Wafa Sultan part 2 English subtitle
Wafa Sultan part 1 Arabic (partial)
Wafa Sultan part 2 Arabic (partial)
For a Christian or an assuming Ex-Muslim Convert Saying, “The Muslim Call to Prayer is One of the Prettiest Sounds on Earth,” is like a Jew saying “Heil Hitler Anthem is the most soothing music.”
[Right Picture: for the first time in Islamic history, Muslims support an apostate instead of killing him.]
IT’S THE BIGGEST INSULT TO EVERY Jew, CHRISTIAN, ESPECIALLY CHRISTIANS AND EX-MUSLIM CONVERTS LIVING IN OR FROM AN ISLAMIC COUNTRY – BARAK OBAMA AS AN EX-MUSLIM CONVERT – AS HE CLAIMS - HAVING LIVED IN INDONESIA, SHOULD KNOW BETTER.
Mr. Hussein Obama, What you find "One of the prettiest sounds on Earth", is the HEIL HITLER OF ISLAM (Geert Wilders ain't lying when he confirmed this fact), that slaughtered, deported and exterminated the Jews and Christians of Arabia, for refusing to utter it, let alone find it pretty. They didn't teach you that in your previous Islamic education? Are you proud of promoting this pretty sound?
Would the Jews qualify the music the German SS were playing while they’ve been exterminated in the gas chambers of Dachau to be “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth.”
This is equivalent to the infamous statement of Mr. Hussein Obama.
Would Mr. Obama tell the families of, millions of Christians in the Middle East, the two million Armenians, the eighty million Hindus, let alone many others to mention who have been massacred by Muslims, all along the 1400 centuries, that what their loved ones heard while being slaughtered, is “One of the prettiest sounds on Earth?”
First, there is one thing we at Sons of Apes and Pigs want to make categorically, unambiguously, unconditionally, unquestionably, and unequivocally (etc, etc) clear. And that is, we believe in democracy and the democratic system without reservation. This is not to say that democracy is all good, or that it results in only good things and sound judgments, far from that, or that the majority is (always) more intelligent in their choices than the minority. History is best proof that democratic elections produced leaders that were catastrophe to their own people, Hitler and Chamberlain came to power democratically.
However, we are firm believers in what Winston Churchill said, “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”
As Copts from Egypt, no one more than us, value Western democracy, for having been born, lived and suffered in a dictatorial regime, that resulted in nothing but injustice, complete disaster and caused Egypt to fall into misery for the last fifty six years.
Secondly, Sons of Apes and Pigs is neither a missionary Christian site, nor politically affiliated site. Our sole purpose is to expose the truth about Islam to the Western world, and to Muslims not knowing what’s in their books, and they’re plenty. We believe, every Muslim that leaves Islam is on less potential terrorist. Free for them after, to decide for themselves what suite them best.
We the Copts, were the biggest supporters of president Bush during the last presidential election. But we were also the first to condemn his false claim that Allah is the same God of the Bible. We considered that, to be the greatest insult from an American president, first to himself, to us the Copts, to the millions of Christians in Muslim dominated countries suffering the worst persecution in modern history, and to the millions of Christian Martyrs, that gave their lives willingly, and they still doing it, for nothing else but their rejection of the same Allah that Mr. Bush wants to shove it down our throats. Let alone the Christians and Jews of America that are nonetheless, also on the extermination list of that Allah.
What we state here in regards to Mr. Hussein Obama, falls under the same criteria. Free to the American people to decide for themselves. Knowing more than anyone else, the lethal danger of Islam, for paying the dearest price of all people, we are, contrary to many fearful, and nervous opinions, neither fearful, panicking, or crying wolf. Nothing that could happen would be new to us or surprise us, we know the price, we know what we’re willing to pay, and we know that there is no better alternative than the democratic system.
Thomas Jefferson said, “I know of no safe repository of the ultimate power of society but people. And if we think them not enlightened enough, the remedy is not to take the power from them, but to inform them by education.” History also proved to be the best educator of all, confirming what George Bernard Shaw said, “Democracy is a device that ensures we shall be governed no better than we deserve.”
For Mr. Hussein Obama, we will state our case, and let the chips fall where they may
Muslim Call to Prayer “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth”
"Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no God but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... "
Arabic Translation:
“Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar (Allah is greater).
Ash’hado Aan La Illaha Illa Allah (I witness that there is no God but Allah).
Ash’hado Aanna Mohammadan Rasoul Allah (I witness that Mohammad is the messenger of Allah).”
Those “THREE” sentences that Mr. Obama finds one of “the prettiest sounds on earth”, Hundreds of millions of Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, and many other populations, including ex-Muslim converts, has, and still sacrifice, as we speak, EVERYTHING, INCLUDING THEIR LIVES, for simply refusing to recite them.
We will only focus here on what is related to THE CASE of Mr. Obama, his claim of being a Christian, and an ex-Muslim convert having lived in a Muslim dominated country, Indonesia. He should be the first to know that for a Muslim, “Allah Akbar, I witness that there is no God but Allah,” is a denial of the divinity of Jesus, and an abrogation of the God of the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism.
For a Christian and an ex-Muslim (like Mr. Obama), Allah is a false god invented by Mohammad, according to the Christian Dogma.
For a Muslim, “I witness that Mohammad is his messenger,” is also a denial of the divinity of Jesus, since Mohammad is considered to be, not only “The most honorable, the Master of Creation, the one that was sent to fulfill the most noble deeds, the light of the Throne of Allah, etc, etc.” Which places Jesus as a second class prophet. But he also denied the crucifixion of Jesus. If Mr. Obama forgot his Islam, and his Koran from the old days, we can remind him:
Koran 4:157, “That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah’; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.”
Any one that denies the crucifixion of Jesus, very simply destroys the foundation and the raison d’être of Christianity. No crucifixion means no salvation, no salvation means Jesus is a liar, and if Jesus is a liar, then all Christianity is a fraud. Elementary my dear Watson. I’m also saying this for the Christians that swallow the Islamic deception of “We believe like you in Issa (Jesus) but not the crucified one”, and the gullible Christians take this as a sign of love with almost tears in their eyes, not realizing that the Muslim in effect is telling you, “your Christianity is false and garbage, since Jesus was not crucified.” The perfection in deception is when they say, “we believe like you.”
The least we can say, it makes us wonder. How a pretty sound (call of Islamic prayer) that reminds every Christian of these insults could be considered, “One of the prettiest sounds on Earth”, by an ex-Muslim Christian convert that is supposed to know this from his Muslim background?
Mohammad called those who believe in Jesus as God incarnate and Son of God to be kaffers:
Koran 5:17 “In blasphemy indeed are those that say that Allah is Al-Masih the son of Maryam. Say: "Who then hath the least power against Allah, if His Will were to destroy Al-Masih the son of Maryam, his mother, and all, everyone that is on the earth?”
Here again, it makes us wonder.
As we explained in our previous posting, in reality, it’s Mohammad that validates Allah. Allah without Mohammad is worth nothing.
““Allah Akbar- Mohammad is his prophet,” is not only a sound, but a statement and the profession of Islamic faith. Does Mr. Obama as a “Christian” identify with that to?
For all Christians, Mohammad falls into the category that Jesus and the Apostles said about:
Matthew 7:15 , [A Tree and Its Fruit] "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”
Matthew 24:11, “and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.”
Matthew 7:17 , “Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.”
Luke 6:43, "No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does a bad tree bear good fruit.”
Matthew 12:33, "Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit.”
1 John 4:1, “Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
Galatians 1:8: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached
to you, let him be eternally condemned!
This should be enough to enlighten Mr.Obama, but we will end this point with this knock out:
Assuming Mr. Obama didn’t had time yet to read the bible (everyone deserve the benefit of the doubt), there is no two illiterate Christians in the world, that would differ on the most fundamental Christian Dogma, his raison d’être for being a Christian: that Jesus is Lord, Savior, and the fulfillment of the prophecies.
Acts 4:12, “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."
This is to say, that for any Christian in the world, Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, and whoever claims, to come after him, is from the devil, PERIOD. Mohammad, by his deeds, is but a confirmation of the Words of Jesus, a thief and a robber, Millions of Christians paid with their lives for their faith in Jesus of the Bible, and for rejecting the fake Issa, fabricated by Mohammad in the Koran.
Added to this, for an ex-Muslim, it’s all the above, plus the feeling of being scammed,enslaved, his past life being robbed by a pagan death cult founded by a mass murderer pedophile, self proclaimed prophet. That not only forced his parents, grandparents, and ancestors to enter Islam with the sword on their necks, but he (the ex-Muslim) is still living with the threat of that same sword on his neck, more than ever before, to chop it, at any moment, no matter where he is by the followers of that prophet.
No one more than Mr. Obama, having lived in the most populated, and one of the most radical Islamic country in the world, Indonesia, knows better what Christians there are enduring and what their lives is worth, and how much less, the life of an apostate in this country is worth, being an “Apostate” himself. Besides knowing what’s the verdict of the Sharia Law for his case.
As if all this is not enough, to Christians, all along the 1400 years of Islam, and it’s getting worse from day to day (As I’m writing this, we just got news from Iraq, of the kidnapping of the Keldanian Archbishop of Mosul, his driver, and two others that were with him after finishing a Mass in the Sacred Heart church yesterday, with no news about their whereabouts), and for ex-Muslims since they rejected Islam, “Allah Akbar, I witness that Mohammad is his messenger,”
is the sound that reminds them every time they hear it (as we explained here), of the sword of Mohammad that can strike them any moment to destroy their lives, the lives of their loved ones, their children future, rape and kidnap their daughters, bomb their Churches, homes, businesses, and end their lives.
The most illiterate Christian, and more so, for an ex-Muslim that knows Islam from the inside, “Allah Akbar, I witness that Mohammad is his messenger,” have a more powerful hyper, and faster effect than any known narcotic to gather and send a Muslim mob on rampage, destruction, and killing innocent Christians in many Islamic countries. In short, it became, what it always has been since the beginning of Mohammad’s killing carrier, THE CALL OF WAR AND ATTACK, and their perpetual subjugation as, the unclean(9:28), the cursed (1:7, 9:30), worst of creatures (98:6), just to name a few.
Most, if not all the comments on Mr. Obama’s statement, centered on the fact of whether that puts his conversion to Christianity in doubt, since many people took notice, that this is the profession of faith for a Muslim. But we were extremely surprised that no one commented on the decency of Mr.Obama, which we had no reason to doubt prior to that statement. For the appropriateness of throwing this, very candidly, in the face of the American people already familiarized in their living rooms with the “Allah Akbar beheading shows of their own citizens, let alone the nonstop “show must go on” of the Allah Akbar beheadings pattern in Iraq, Afghanistan, Indonesia, and the massacres of Christians in Africa, including Kenya, the Fatherland of Mr. Hussein Obama.
Obama is a supporter of Kenyan Muslim Raila Odinga, who recently lost in that country’s election, and who wants to institute Islamic Sharia law as the law of that land. The result was one of the biggest massacres of Christians, destruction of their homes, businesses, and burning of churches. A gathering of Christians were burned alive inside their church where they went for shelter.
Raila claims to be Osama’s first cousin. Did we hear an appropriate condemnation from Mr.Obama for those massacred? Did Mr. Obama laid a wreath on the mass grave of those Christians and said a prayer?
The sad reality is, those massacred died hearing that “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth,
Would Mr. Obama tell the families of the 3000 slaughtered in 911, that “Allah Akbar… “, which were the last words uttered by the hijackers before slamming their flying bombs in the WTC, and cause the biggest catastrophe in America, is “One of the prettiest sounds on Earth?”
That’s also the pretty sound they use when they burn American flags.
This, for us, was more shocking. We can’t blame Mr. Hussein Obama for being born Muslim, same as we can’t blame anyone for inheriting a disease from his parents, but spreading the disease and being proud about it, especially in the face of people that suffered and still suffering from that disease, that’s what we had to expose.
This ultimate affront, made us question, more in depth, Mr. Hussein Obama’s claim of Christianity. We are perfectly knowledgeable of Islam’s fundamental doctrine of Taqquiya (deception), that Muslims are commanded to use for the benefit of Islam, and be guided by their prophet famous saying, “war is deception.” In case there is still people asking what war, according to Mohammad, and the Koran, Muslims should wage jihad until Koran 9:29
(the jewel of jihad) is fulfilled.
The jewels of deception, that every Christian knowledgeable about Islam, and especially an ex-Muslim, knows for whom they’re meant to be used, are:
3:28, “Let not the Believers take for friends or helpers Unbelievers rather than Believers: if any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah: except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them. But Allah cautions you (to remember) Himself; for the final goal is to Allah.”(That command the Muslim to be a fox, to deny, and even slander his Islam and Mohammad if needed, it’s open ended.) [All emphasis between comma added.]
2:225, “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts, and He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.” (That allows a Muslim to lie even on himself for the benefit of the Umma.)
22:78, “And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, with sincerity and under discipline. He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion.” (That absolve the Muslim from any shame and as many colors as a Chameleon.)
2:185, “Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put you to difficulties, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful.” (Muslim have all flexibility to twist their religion, any way you (the kafer) want it, (like the song), as long it is for the glory of Allah.)
5:89, “Allah will not call you to account for what is futile in your oaths.” (Muslims are not held accountable for their oaths to the kafers, Allah’s Carte Blanche for unlimited deception.)
2:286, “On no soul doth Allah place a burden greater than it can bear. It gets every good that it earns, Our Lord! Condemn us not if we forget or fall into error; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden like that which Thou didst lay on those before us; our Lord! Lay not on us a burden greater than we have strength to bear. Blot out our sins, and grant us forgiveness. Have mercy on us. Thou art our Protector; help us against those who stand against Faith.” (Another Allah’s Carte Blanche for unlimited deception, as long the kafers are deceived.)
16:106, “Anyone who, after accepting Faith in Allah, utters Unbelief.” (That’s not only ok, but it’s demanded, as long it benefits the Umma.)
To give just one example on how Islamic countries applies the “holy” deception commanded by the Koran and Mohammad:
All the Arab and Islamic countries are the first to sign ALL the UN Human Rights UN Charts and Freedom of religion and civil liberties. Even (please don’t laugh) Saudi Arabia, and they’re the countries where there is no human rights, Christians and Apostates are killed and not treated as humans. The whole world, and all western governments know the mockery. Why Islamic countries do a mockery of themselves? You may ask. They’re not. They’re making a mockery of you and the whole western world. If you ask them why they kill apostate? They’ll tell you they have no apostate. The ones they kill are criminals causing subversion and insulting Islam. Same as Ahmadynejad (president of Iran) when asked why he kills gay people? He answered without blinking, that there is no gay people in Iran.
There is something else, in light of all the above that is raising few red flags, and questions. The overwhelming support of African Americans, and Muslims, to an African American ex-Muslim is a no brainer to us, for many obvious reasons.
What’s taking a bigger dimension, is the evident overwhelming widespread support by the Arab Islamic world, and particularly Wahabi’s dominated media to Mr.Hussein Obama in the Middle East. It is evident that the election of the Democratic candidate Barack Obama in the American presidential election will serve the Arabs' best interests, which is also no brainer.
But what catch our attention, is the fact that all the Wahabi’s dominated Islamic media, including the numerous comments, never mentioned for once the fact that he’s an apostate. On the contrary, their editorials and comments went on attacking the media, and all the blogosphere contesting his (Obama) claim of conversion to Christianity, and went on defending Mr. Obama, and attacking the “Neo-Cons conspiracy” that denies the “Apostasy” of Mr. Hussein Obama.
In other words, Muslims and Islamic media are confirming and defending Mr. Obama’s apostasy.
This is a first in the history of Islam. To support and defend an apostate, unfortunately, they’re not generalizing it, It’s a one in a lifetime opportunity.
For Muslims, apostasy is a treason to the Umma. The Apostate is considered to be demeaning and shaming Islam, remember, Muslims pride is in the numbers. When the most “meaningless” Muslim leaves Islam, demand for his death is unanimous in line with the Islamic Sharia. The world has witnessed the many cases reported in the International media. Like the case of Abdel Rahman from Afghanistan, and more recently, the case we reported on and was republished also by www.worldnetdaily.com, concerning Mohamed Higazy and his wife. For a high profile Muslim leaving Islam, it’s the ultimate affront.
There are many Muslim conversions to Christianity in Muslim dominated countries; Muslim media and Islamic authorities never admit there is (Apostate). On the contrary, their biggest pride is advertizing and boasting that people are coming to Islam in droves, and it’s their ultimate pride when a high profile person accepts Islam. Who didn’t hear their boasting (even though it’s false, and we’ll prove that too) of “Islam is the fastest growing religion”?
Mr.Hussein Obama is, the highest profile ex-Muslim known internationally to claim to be an apostate, and at the same time defended by the Islamic media and Radical Muslims at large, accusing the Neo- Cons of spreading, and showing an anti-Muslim attitude against Mr. Obama. Adding, “what if he were a Muslim?”
Al Arabiya Channel (Owned by Saudi Arabia)
Friday, 29 February 2008
Observers ask "so what if he were a Muslim?"
Obama controversy shows anti-Muslim attitude
Obama, a Christian, has fought a whispering campaign from fringe elements that say he is a Muslim. The Democratic front-runner's middle family name -- Hussein -- has been used by some to draw a link between him and late Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
"But it's interesting," Shaheen said, "no one has said so what? What if he were a Muslim?"
[Mr. Shaheen claims that we link Hussein Obama to Saddam Hussein is a diversion, there is tens of millions called Hussein, and no one link them to Saddam, but Hussein is linked to the son of Fatma, Al Hussein, the grandson of the prophet, which is a link to the House of Mohammad, the pride of Islam. And please notice at the beginning of the excerpt the “Obama, a Christian…”. For Muslims, an apostate is never called a Christian, but “the Apostate” label always sticks to him to make him always reminded that he’s the unclean traitor that deserves to be killed. And then the “What if he were a Muslim”?]
Ahmed Rehab, executive director of the Chicago Chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, was mentioned in same article saying, "the photograph (Obama in Kenyan garb) incident sent a poor message to any Muslim growing up in the United States with hopes of running for president. It goes against all that I advocate that the mere rumor of a person being a Muslim -- let alone actually being one -- could be a tool to destroy political aspirations," he said in a commentary in the Chicago Tribune.
[Now CAIR (that want to see Islam dominant in the USA) is jumping to the front line in the same article, to blur the lines and portray this as an attack on Muslims at large, and again, as a matter of fact states – let alone (Obama) being one (Muslim)-.]
Not one word touching the issue of Obama’s apostasy. Neither debating the fact that Muslims,Short of killing the Apostate, never trust him, once he went to the Kaffers camp.
We’ll leave the other point of he’s being supported by a controversial church, and Louis Farakhan that needs no definitions.
We are in contact on a daily basis with apostates, whether from America, the Western world, and all over the Arab and Islamic world, mostly through our chat rooms on Paltalk.com, We have several sites with ex-Muslims testimonies like here, and here, and many more on youtube.
With no exception, every ex-Muslim makes it a point, after his conversion to Christianity, to give a testimony, that includes:
- Rejecting Islam, Mohammad and the Koran as not from the real God, publicly front of the congregation.
Where and when Mr. Obama rejected Islam?
- What he found in Islam that made him convinced that Islam is a false religion, and Mohammad a false prophet?
What Mr. Obama can tell us about that?
- What teaching he found in Christianity that are different or in contradiction to his previous Islamic beliefs.
That’s another question that every Convert to Christianity is proud to answer. Is Mr.Obama proud to be a Christian? That should be obvious if he chose Christianity.
Many of the apostates, under the most ferocious torture in the Islamic countries, even to their Muslim torturers, they never abstain, when they’re asked the usual question of why they left Islam and went to Christianity, from declaring with all the courage, the hate and the infamous deeds of Mohammad that convinced them he couldn’t be a prophet from God, proving it from the Koran and the life of Mohammad, and testifying to the love, deeds, and teaching of Christ that are diametrically opposed. Many paid with their lives for this, but it never kept them from giving their testimonies.
The question is: Mr. Obama, was and still is in America, when he “converted” to Christianity, Safe from being Killed, Where is his testimony? Christianity is not a secret society, and it’s a point of honor for any apostate to deny the devil that led him ashtray before, that is Allah Akbar the pagan god of Arabia and Mohammad. What devil Obama denied to accept Jesus as savior?
Let’s even simplify the question to its bare bone. What’s the reason Mr. Obama can give that made him
That’s a very legitimate and politically correct question that no Christian wouldn’t want to answer.
A second point that no two people in the world, lovers of sounds, would disagree on: Any one moved by a “pretty sound” let alone when it comes to “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth”, says what feelings and emotions move him in that sound and what effect it has on him, let alone the nice memories it brings. I’m sure any one reading this can remember a pretty sound he or she loves and feel something about, if not identify with it somehow.
The obvious question to Mr. Obama: What emotions and feelings he has when he hears that “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth, and what nice memories it brings to him”?
Another question to Mr. Obama: Why in Saudi Arabia they have The Muttawaoon (religious police) to whip Muslims to go to pray when they hear the call of prayer if it’s “one of the prettiest sound on Earth.”
Today, as I’m writing this, the International Herald Tribune reported, “Young Iraqis are losing their faith in religion”.
"When they behead someone, they say ‘Allahu akbar,’ they read Koranic verse..
One of the reasons given by Muslims themselves is, "When they behead someone, they say 'Allah Akbar,' they read Koranic verse," said a moderate Shiite sheik from Baghdad. "The young people, they think that is Islam. So Islam is a failure, not only in the students' minds, but also in the community."
We will end our case study of Mr. Obama by this:
Any ex-Muslim convert, or any convert to Christianity, considers it to be his divine or religious responsibility to say his testimony (as mentioned above) to open the eyes and help other Muslims to find the truth he found. Especially his loved ones that he cares for, to gain Salvation, and be where he will be in eternity. That’s why; many ex-Muslims dedicated their lives as preachers and missionaries, even in Islamic countries where they know they could be killed any minute for doing that.
With all these facts and questions, Mr Obama still finds the call of prayer to be “One of the prettiest sounds on earth.” The sound that reminds Christians and ex-Muslims alike of their dhimmi (second class citizen) status in Indonesia where Obama lived.
THE ONLY PEOPLE FOR WHOM THAT SOUND IS “ONE OF THE PRETTIEST ON EARTH” ARE DEVOUT MUSLIMS FOR WHOM THAT SOUND IS THE SOUND OF VICTORY FOR ISLAM OVER THE KAFFERS.
Mr.Obama, as an apostate, can you denounce the apostasy law, and call for religious freedom in the Islamic world that is supporting you? As you well know, these are the principles of freedom for a true Christian.
We selected for your viewing, few videos concerning Ex-Muslims in different dramatic situations, as well as a video showing Father Zakaria Boutros, a Coptic priest and one of the foremost world authority on Islam. He was forced to exile by the Egyptian government for his fearless outreach to Muslims. Islamic governments consider him “Islam’s enemy number one”, with a 60 million dollars fatwa on his head from Saudi Arabia and Libya. He is known worldwide to be the man that has the greatest effect on millions of Muslims that left Islam, through his show
“questions about faith” on Lifetv.tv, broadcast, and watched by millions of Muslims all over the world and his chat room on www.Paltalk.com (Islam Christianity Father Zakaria), and his site www.fatherzakaria.com.
The reason we selected these videos, featuring apostates, is for you to judge with your own eyes, if anyone of them think like Mr. Obama, and consider “Allah Akbar ..” to be “One of the prettiest sounds on Earth,” or the biggest curse of their lives, and let us know the effects of that "prettiest sound", on you.
WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS THE ISLAM REALITY TV THAT MUSLIMS DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE IN GEERT WILDERS MOVIE
1- The "Allah Akbar pretty sound" effect on Christian and apostate Sunday school teachers Rebecca, Eti, and Ratna in Indonesia where Mr.Obama learned the "pretty sound."
2- What Mr.Obama's "pretty sound" produces in Indonesia, where he lived as a Muslim.
3- What happened to one of our close friend and apostate, Adam, in Canada when he refused to recite Mr.Obama's "pretty sound." He's more convinced than ever, never to recite it again.
4- An apostate, Mother of three young girls, threatened with torture and the rape of her three girls if she refuse to recite Mr.Obama's "pretty sound." She's now living in hiding with her daughters, willing to die, rather than reciting that "pretty sound" that made her life hell on earth.
5- What happened to Dr. Mark A.Gabriel (this is not his original Muslim name), PhD. Former professor of Islamic history at Al-Azhar University, Cairo, Egypt, and best selling author of Islam and Terrorism, Islam and Antisemitism, and other books, when he rejected to recite Mr. Obama's "pretty sound." Dr. Gabriel is a close friend, dedicated to expose Islam to the West.
6- The cost of refusing to recite Mr. Obama's "pretty sound", in Africa.
7- The wordly known Coptic priest Father Zakaria, commenting on the cost for apostate that reject Mr. Obama's "pretty sound." His show that convinced millions of Muslims to leave Islam, will soon be translated in English. He meets with us every Thursday.
8- Former Muslim militia fighters telling how Mr.Obama's "pretty sound", was leading him to hell.
9- How Mr.Obama's "pretty sound", turns human beings to predators and killers, and the cost of rejecting it in every Islamic country.
THIS IS THE REAL ISLAM THAT YOUR MEDIA WON'T SHOW YOU AND IS NOT TEACHED IN HARVARD, CORNELL, STANFORD,OR ANY AMERICAN OR WESTERN UNIVERSITY TEACHING ISLAMIC STUDIES BLEACHED WITH SAUDI OIL MONEY BY THE ESPOSITOS TROJAN HORSES, VOICES OF THEIR PAYING MASTERS.
Reality and truth are the criteria that applies on all the Islam we teach here, unbleached.
As we said in the beginning, we have no political agenda, and what we expose here is not meant to be a voting guidance. We just provide information and facts. free to anyone to check and research our facts on his own, and we'll be the first people to publish any rebuttal for any information we provide.
Just received another update from Mr. Usama Dakdok, the President of The Straight Way of Grace Ministry that we posted his previous press release after his phone conversation with the controversial Obama's chruch.
Hi,
I appreciate your concern.
With all respect, there are some false emails circulating over the internet but I feel that I can give enough evidence to back up my statements.
Following are a few of the most important points I have to make on this subject of Obama and his church.
Some Facts about Obama in simple words.
1. He was born from Muslim blood. (Which in Islam makes him automatically a Muslim)
2. He was educated in a Muslim school where Christians could not go.
3. For a better education he attended a Catholic school, which many Muslims do.
4. He had nothing to do with Christianity until he married his wife.
5. He joined a cult church, a non-Christian church:
a) The church teaches separatism (black and white)
b) They teach black theology, not Christ Theology
c) The church honors and respects Islam and Muslims to the point they welcome Muslims to be members of the church and gave Louis Farrakhan an award for being the man who will unite the true Christian to the true Muslim to the true Jew. WHAT A CHRISTIAN CHURCH!
d) Why would Obama leave Islam to join such a church? He joined skillfully to cover-up, knowing that a Muslim in America would have little chance to become a senator or the president.
e) When you believe in Mohammad you deny Christ.
6. He never denounced Islam or Mohammad or the Quran.
7. There is no record that he was baptized.
8. From his own words, we can judge him, for he made fun of Christianity, the Bible, Old Testament and New Testament, which proves he is not a Christian.
9. When a Muslim leaves Islam to Christianity, there would be a 100% fatwa (decree for him to be killed) issued against his life:
a) A Fatwa has never been issued on Obama. But the opposite is true, for the Muslim world is endorsing and supporting him. This includes Louis Farrakkan's endorsement. Some may say that Obama has distanced himself for his radical minister and from Louis Farrakkan but my response is very simple, it is an act because he, his pastor , and Farrakkan, know if he does not say that. he will lose the vote of the rest of the country.
b) He was welcomed to Kenya as a Muslim hero recently.
c) Muslims in America support him, even financially “One dollar for one nation under God" (Allah).
d) As a senator, he has and continues to employ members of The Nation of Islam. Cynthia K. Miller was the treasurer of His U.S. Senate campaign. Jennifer Mason is Obama’s director of Constituent Services in his U.S. Senate office and is also in charge of selecting Obama’s senate interns. - (debbieschlussel.com)
10. His agenda for the Whitehouse clearly shows he is Muslim:
a) Remove our army immediately from the Middle East.
b) He sits and eats dinner with Muslim jihadist.
c) Removing the idea of the use of nuclear weapons in any circumstance.
d) Passing a hate crime bill that will silence anyone who speaks against Islam.
11. His stance on the issue of gay marriage and abortion proves he is not a Christian.
Please pass this information around to your friends and endorse me before the media, such as Sean Hannity hannity@foxnews.com , and others whom you feel care about our country.
Usama Dakdok
According to Usama Dakdok, the "straight way" can only be found by looking in a different book: the Bible. More specifically, John 14:6: "Jesus answered, ,I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.'"
Dakdok is the founder of The Straight Way of Grace, a ministry that has him traveling throughout the United States equipping Christians to be effective witnesses of Jesus Christ to their Muslim neighbors, as well as ministering to Muslims directly. He was one of several instructors at the Missouri Baptist Convention's third annual missions training event at the Baptist Building March 30.
Dakdok was born in Egypt and raised in a Christian home as the son of a Baptist pastor. Although he became a Christian at age 11, Dakdok was still forced to study Islam in school; it was and remains a mandatory subject. To further his knowledge of Islam and better prepare him to effectively reach Muslims, he studied Islamic law in college before earning a bachelor's degree in theology and a master's in missiology from New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary.
If anyone is qualified to comment on how Islam is taking hold across the world, it is Dakdok.
"Islam is a religion spreading in darkness and ignorance," he said. "Muslims are no longer using just the sword for Jihad, they are changing their teachings to create a new Islam to fit you. Islam in America is a fake Islam. It is not the Islam of the Qur'an."
Because the holy book of Islam, the Qur'an, must be read in Arabic (a language less than 13 percent of Muslim can speak, let alone read) the faith lends itself easily to distortion and confusion among those who claim to be believers. In short, Dakdok said, the majority of American Muslims think Islam is a religion of peace and do not belive Jihad should be translated as "holy war" simply because they have no idea what the Qur'an really teaches ... yet.
It is this willingness to compromise and adapt while shrouding the true desire for domination (Dakdok translates "Islam" as "surrender") that he said is the cause behind Islam's rapid growth in America. According to Dakdok, Christianity has grown 47 percent in the past 50 years while Islam has ballooned 235 percent.
In a way, one could say Islam is following Christianity's example of watering down its doctrine and beliefs to attract converts.
"We are taking the scriptures out of our own churches," he said, "when we should be doing the opposite.
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Dakdok is weeks away from completing a translation of the Qur'an. Once completed, copies can be ordered from Dakdok's website, www.thestraightway.org.
"I want to expose the danger of this book (the Qur'an)," he said.
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If that leaves any doubt true Islam is not a religion of peace, Dakdok translated the following passages (47:4 and 5:72-73): "So, when you meet the Infidels, chop off their heads until you have made a great slaughter." "Infidels indeed are those who say, ,Surely God is the Christ, son of Mary.' Infidels indeed are those who say ,Surely God is the third of three (trinity).'"
Dakdok is available to present any one of 18 informational presentations on Islam or to train Christians to more effectively reach Muslims. Contact information is available on his website.
"Reformist" Sheikh Qaradawi: Today's Jews aren't apes and pigs.
According to Qaradawi, thechnically, now, we're just brothers and sisters of Apes and pigs
But I think that Qaradawi is loosing his koranic memory, of course, age has its effect, and as I came to know, from a very reliable and always been highly reputable source for the solid information provided, on the buying of little girls by who came to be known :
"the Viagra sheik", and the impotence treatment he's been doing in England. A true and faithful follower of his pedophile prophet. But he's not an exception, sheiks always had a smelly reputation.
"Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, Recently Barred from the U.K., Reiterates His Position on Suicide Bombings and Declares: Jews Are Not the Offspring of Apes and Pigs," from MEMRTV
Following are excerpts from addresses by Islamic scholar Sheik Yousuf Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Al-Hiwar TV on February 15, 2008 and on Al-Jazeera TV on February 18, 2008:
“I am known in the Islamic world as the preacher of the mainstream”, said Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, the spiritual Godfather of the Muslim Brotherhood, the mother organization of the bloodiest terrorists on earth for the last 80 years.
I sanctioned these operations to anybody who is forced to carry them out in defense of his homeland. In my opinion, our brothers in Palestine are forced to do so. In Iraq, they have a wide variety of weapons. They are able to use weapons against their enemies. But the weapons of the Palestinian brothers are no match for their enemies' weapons – they do not have even one percent or one permille of their weapons. That's why I sanctioned these operations for [the Palestinians], but not for [the Iraqis]. In addition, I did not approve using this kind of operation in New York and Washington, on September 11, 2001. I did not approve of these operations in the London and Madrid bombings. I sanctioned bombings and sacrifice operations for the Palestinians only – not because their enemies are Jews, but because they are occupiers and the Palestinians cannot fight them. They kill Palestinians on a daily basis, destroy their homes, burn their fields, uproot their trees, and so on.
Al-Jazeera TV, February 18, 2008:
I denounced some contemporary religious preachers, who curse the Jews and the Christians, saying: "Allah, annihilate the Jews and the Christians." Where did this come from? There are Jews and Christians in our Muslim countries. There are Copts in Egypt, and Christians in Syria. So how can you curse them? Not only that, but they curse: "Allah, turn their children in orphans," "Allah, destroy their homes." Who sanctioned such prayers? The Koran does not call to turn children into orphans or to destroy homes. There are no such things in the prayers of the Prophet Muhammad.
I denounced some people who said that the Jews are the offspring of apes and pigs. That's not true. When God transformed some people into apes and pigs, they did not have any offspring, as is written in the Al-Muslim compilation. When God transforms people into something else, they do not have offspring. They die and are annihilated straight away. Besides, this is a curse, and Islam forbids cursing.
"I sanctioned bombings and sacrifice operations for the Palestinians only – not because their enemies are Jews, but because they are occupiers and the Palestinians cannot fight them."
That's what we will start with.
As I mentioned before in “Mohammad and his followers call us apes and pigs”, the top Islamic sheiks and Imams don’t know where to hide from Islam’s nakedness. The day has come, when they are forced to deny their Koran and Mohammad’s infamous teaching publicly. In the last eight years, when we opened our Islamic debate Arabic chat forum (which more than 1.2 million Muslims signed a petition to close), directed to the Arab world, it caused and still causing an uproar for exposing every Islamic deception to their own Muslim populations, and their Sheiks inability to refute what we say. How can they if what we say is from the Mothers of their own books?
The Islamic authorities are cornered by the nakedness of their Islam with no way out, except by lying to us and losing their credibility, even with their own public that is questioning them and getting no answers. They’re intoxicated with Islam like a drunk that can’t talk straight and think all others are fools. Their formula worked on their followers for 1428. But, it doesn't mean they are not pursuing their aim to deceive and subdue us. Intoxicated people, always think they're right, and Islam is nothing but, intoxication. That’s why we'll take the lid off the deception of one of the Godfathers of Islam, sheik Youssef Al Qaradawi.
The theologian of the “human bomb”, the spiritual brother and previous companion of Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the blind sheik) who’s serving a life sentence at the hospitality of the US government for masterminding the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Anyone knowledgeable about Islam will not contest that these are the credentials of a TRUE mainstream Muslim following the TRUE teaching of Mohammad.
Notice he said, “I am known in the Islamic world as the preacher of the mainstream”. He didn't say he's known in "the world", which would include the Western world (governments) definition of "mainstream", but in "the Islamic world", and what the Western reader should know is, "the Islamic world" Al Qaradawi meant here is "The Umma", and that on the other hand includes Muslims everywhere, including in the West. As a proof, did any Muslim organization in the West deny Al Qaradawi statement that he's mainstream? Their hostile reaction for barring Al Qaradawi from England speaks for itself.
Al Qaradawi was not lying. According to Islamic teaching, he is a mainstream Muslim
That debunks western politicians and governments (wishful thinking) definition of "mainstream" Muslims, with a very simple question: Mainstream Muslim according to what? In other words, what mainstream " are teaching" these Muslims following?
What’s the definition of a mainstream Muslim according to the Islamic doctrine? There is, by Sunni Muslims own admission (and they say it with pride), only one Koran that is the same for Muslims all over the world. The Shia Koran is slightly different (have 2 more chapters), but we’ll focus on the Sunnis for now, since they represent 80% of Muslims worldwide. Next to the Koran, Sunnis also are bound by the Sunnah, which is the Hadiths (sayings and deeds of Mohammad).
The most fundamental rule (this is of the utmost importance for the Western people to grasp,) that all Sunnis of the world are bound by, is the strict adherence to the same set of interpretations for the Koran, and the Hadiths, that are approved by all Sunni authorities.
This is an order from Mohammad himself, and an order from Mohammad is an order from Allah, since Allah ordered the believers to follow the orders of Mohammad. If you didn’t get it, let me put it this way, Allah in the Koran ordered the believers to follow the Hadiths, and in the Hadiths, Mohammad ordered the believers to follow the Koran. They both serve each other well, the